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And Bryson. Don’t forget Bryson. I didn’t walk away with the same reading you did. To me, it reinforced my take that it’s not about the concept, it’s about the individual players. Nice bit of work by the author. Of course I’m using it. It’s a perfect example of how “doing something” isn’t what you pretend it is. If you posted “the Sabres haven’t made the playoffs in a decade” I wouldn’t have argued. Instead you posted that they have done nothing for three years running, which is a lie and you should get called on it.

It really is that simple. It is odd how the NHL can simply ignore the Twitter mob on so many issues but decides they can’t on this one.

I don’t think Carolina has any intention of trading Brett Pesce unless he”s stuck on a contract demand the Sabres won’t be willing to pay.

Just coming to post this. They’re also reporting that “teams are calling on Duclair but Florida doesn’t want to give him up” which is Lebrun speak for a GM wanting to convince a trade partner to pull the trigger. Calgary needs scoring wingers, so I don’t mind connecting dots. Is Duclair more attractive than Olofsson? If so, how much? What are the other pieces involved? As Brawndo said the Sabres have a ton of trade currency Florida doesn’t have. I think the decision to trade Hanifin now has been made and it’s just about Calgary maximizing the return. I read the item as saying the Sabres and the Panthers are the final suitors. I think Hanifin is an excellent fit. Let’s see if Adams can pull this off.

3 years ago they made one of the biggest moves of the off-season in acquiring Taylor Hall. They also added “proven veterans” Eric Staal and Cody Eakin. 2 years ago they made the biggest move of the off-season with the Eichel trade. They also traded core guys in Reinhart and Ristolainen. As usual, you’re making things up again.

We can. It seems important to you that Adams bears a degree of responsibility for the COVID season, and I’m not going to debate that either. What I will debate is anything that hand waves how bad that season was. I think it was the absolute nadir of my fandom, which is now approaching 50 years.

You can’t minimize the COVID year. They were the worst team in the league, they lost a stunning 18 games in a row, half the roster including most of their core desperately wanted out and they were mind-numbingly painful to watch. It was about as low as you can go. We were completely and utterly broken. It needs to be said, because that is the proper context. That is where we have come from in two years. Not directed to you, you know where we came from and have been very clear about where you want them to go. But the “Adams and Granato and their plan sucks” crowd can ***** right off as far as I’m concerned.

Just outright lies and deliberately negative spin. They are already over the cap floor and are poised to extend Dahlin, Power and probably Mitts. Are you expecting them to make a bunch of salary dumps this summer to get back down?

It’s not even slow! 37 points to 75 to 91 in 2 seasons is not slow. i think what bothers me most about the whining is the idea that they’ll never get better without some big moves, when they have consistently gotten better without big moves. Yes, they need tweaks. But the core of the team is here. They need most of Levi UPL Power Mule Quinn Peterka Krebs to take the same steps they got from Tuch Thompson Cozens Dahlin and Mittelstadt. I know most of you see it. I wonder what others are watching.

Skinner Thompson Tuch Mitts Cozens Quinn Peterka Krebs Greenway Girgensons Jost Okposo

UPL's record as a Sabre goalie: 17/11/4 Levi's record projected over the remaining 50 games: 35/14/1 That adds up to a 109-point season. So "we'll be fine" is certainly possible. The better question: Is it likely?

Pick 21. Martin Jones went for one of Boston”s 13-14-15 pick run in 2015. And there was one more who is slipping my mind who went for a pick somewhere in that range around that time. I think those trades might be part of the reason why no one has given up that much for a goalie since.

TSN’s Craig Button dropped his mock this morning. Buffalo ended up with Benson after he slipped down to them. Still available were: Yeager, Perreault, Danielson and Moore Surprise was Wood at 6. Sandin-Pelikka and Willander went before the Sabres pick.

Am I on ignore? 😁

The guys they highlighted in the first were Wood, Moore, Yager, Sandin-Pellikka and Willander

Nelson was one of 6 players featured by Marty, Duffer and Kris Baker as guys to watch in the 2nd round. The others were: Forwards Oskar Fisker-Molgard and Anton Wahlberg, defencemen Martin Strbak, Oliver Bonk and Aram Minnetian.

And how about Gates Orlando? Not sure if he played enough games, but I don’t remember him playing for another team.

Sean McKenna? (First guy I thought of after Moller)

Underappreciated and taken for granted.

I think people sometimes forget Östlund was the 16th pick in the draft less than a year ago and has held his value. The suggested return is close to what Ekholm got and better than what Provorov got and both those guys have term. Neither of them returned an asset as good as Östlund. It’s almost identical to what Hronek got. Pesce is good, but he’s not Slavin or Dougie Hamilton. Its not light at all.

It’s never happened in the cap era. I did the research and posted it on here a while back and I’m too lazy to look it up again. Best return for a goalie in the last 20 years is pick 9 in 2013 for Corey Schneider. Darcy Kuemper was traded for Conner Timmins and a late 1st a couple years back in the best return recently, so essentially a little more than Ryan Johnson and pick 39. Last time a front-line goalie got traded was Luongo in 2014. It was for Markstrom and Matthias, which, at the time, was like UPL and Greenway. Before that, Ryan Miller netted Carrier, Stewart, a late 1st, Halak and a 3rd. It’s less than it sounds when you realize Halak was a cap dump and the Sabres also gave up captain Steve Ott in the deal. The short answer is goalies NEVER get traded for the kind of haul Chewie is offering for Saros. Most of the time they top out at the equivalent of a mid to late 1st and a mid second. The caveat is that goalies like Saros almost never get traded, so there’s not a ton of comparables.

Treliving quit because he didn’t want to work with Sutter Sutter was fired because players weren’t interested in staying if he was there Players want to leave anyway. At least they have 55-point man Jonathan Huberdeau on the roster for another 8 years at $10.5 million. 😬

UPL also went 12/5/1 in December and January after the starters got hurt and the season looked like it might be over by Christmas again. You can't cherry pick one way and ignore the other. *** In a vacuum I would be much more comfortable this season with an Andersen/Levi combo than Devon with one of the others. Outside the vacuum, it needs to be said out loud that acquiring another goalie means you are giving up on UPL. Plain and simple, you re telling him he's not good enough and you are going to have to waive him or trade him. Sabrespace might be OK with that since most gave up on him at the same time they gave up on Casey Mittelstadt. But I'm not sure Adams has. Also, the acquisition cost of Andersen (or anyone else) is not a make-or-break, but it matters. One year $5 million for Freddie and trade UPL for a 2nd? All over that. 4 years at $5 for Freddie and waive UPL? I might be tempted to give UPL another shot. Context matters.

Which players are you talking about? They aren’t getting anything for the UFAs listed above. Do you mean trading the Carlos and Debrusk and Taylor Halls for cheaper players who can be just as effective?

Guess what I am saying is I would disagree with coming back with the same goalies we have, but that doesn’t mean the off-season was a failure if we do. It means Adams has more faith in them than I do. We can decide who was right when the season is over.