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We've been over this before. There is zero evidence in support of either of the statements in the bolded sentence, both of which arise from self-serving statements made by TG and LQ, and a million years' worth of reality justifying skepticism. The NHL almost certainly would've prohibited a buyer from moving the Sabres, so the "turned down a better offer" point is really "turned down an offer for a better deal that would never have closed". And the no-move clause almost certainly includes loopholes based on financial thresholds, which the Sabres almost certainly are going to fail to meet next year. Until the agreement, or at least the no-move clause, is published, it can't be taken seriously. And did you see me say anything about the accuracy of the $300MM number?

I voted Mitts for last season, since he went from being a completely useless sack of flesh on the ice to someone who looked like he could develop into a Derek Roy type -- i.e. a credible 3C who isn't what you want at 1C or 2C and is probably useless in the playoffs but can center a lower-lineup scoring line, put up numbers in the regular season and take some pressure off the top 6. I said Cozens for this coming season, mostly out of hope that he has a great season that will contrast with an injury-marred rookie year in which he showed flashes but didn't produce much.

This is very, very far from certain. This may be reported in Forbes or somewhere similar, but TP almost certainly wouldn't get this number if he were to sell now. I can't speak for @Xzy89c, but I would assume the $300MM is just total cash burn and doesn't include changes in the value of the team.

Well, if they get a solid prospect and a 2nd-rounder for Risto, that's a pretty decent return and probably enough to justify exposing Borgen. Of course it will depend on how good of a player Borgen becomes. I'm not sure that I'd want the Sabres to give up a mid-2nd-round pick plus, say, Portillo or Johnson for Borgen.

@WildCard -- is the question "which of the 3 will be moved at or before the draft?" or is it "which of the 3 will be moved before the start of the season?" Or other?

@Buffalonill -- When someone corrects your factual assertions, you need to check your facts and you absolutely need to stop wasting everyone's time. He wasn't an all-star and he didn't play in the all-star game. He was selected for some rookie skills competition. Those are 2 different things. Claiming late afternoon is the same as midnight or 2+2=5 isn't good hockey talk.

Sekera does not belong on this list. Next season will be his 14th in the NHL, he's averaged 20 min per game and has always been an excellent skater.

I think it's pretty much impossible that the Habs would let Price go after that SCF run in which he was their MVP.

Indeed. I think @GASabresIUFAN needs to come up with a name here to justify all of this sturm and drang.

Well this thread sure took a turn. Good riddance.

Well, I think “squandering” works if you think there was a better way of handling the situation that would’ve resulted in a better outcome.

Also fair and there are probably a bunch of GMs who would come to the same conclusion in wargaming this out. I wouldn’t fret about losing Borgen though if I knew he would end up being a Carrier-level player. I do fret about mismanaging our way into losing a McKee-level or McCabe-level player, which I believe is a significant step up in asset quality from Carrier-level.

Possibly. Certainly Driedger is a better asset. I’d guess that most of the guys taken though will be in the same approximate neighborhood of asset quality/current market value as Borgen, with similar uncertainty and a wide range of outcomes. I think at that point it comes down to being right about as to a guy’s potential and likelihood of his reaching it. I like what I’ve seen from Borgen so far and think he could be a McCabe-like legit 2nd pair guy who is tough and steady in his D zone, sticks up for his teammates, makes the other team pay a price and has a long NHL career. If I’m right about him, then that’s a better asset than 2/3 of the guys who are going to be taken by Seattle.

Good call. I don’t think the Sabres will get more than that for Risto, but they’ll probably get something like that at the deadline. I guess that means the question is whether you’d rather have a low 2nd rounder or Borgen.

He’s an asset that has a reasonable chance of becoming a solid contributor. Good organizations don’t squander assets of this caliber.

Maybe they inquired. I think the price would’ve been exorbitant.

Yes -- I hope the Sabres pursue him. He's a good player and he's tough and fast.

Great conversation. Nicely done.

Or unless they don't think whomever they lose is much of a player, and they are proven right about him.

I don't think people are declining the vaccine out of selfishness or stupidity, although in a large nation of course there will be some of that. I think the hesitation arises primarily from 2 factors: - concern about the safety of the vaccine itself, since it was developed and produced at a greatly accelerated pace, the mRNA vaccines are using a new technology that hasn't been used in any previous vaccine, and there is no data on side effects/safety over the long term. - distrust of public health authorities given numerous dishonest statements over the course of the pandemic that have been justified after the fact by "we knowingly issued XYZ untrue statement because we thought it was best for public health." Hopefully, both concerns will be alleviated over time and vaccination rates will rise -- which is why I'm curious about how long it's taken historically for other vaccines to reach, say, 90% of the eligible population.

Playoff hockey is not nearly as good as playoff basketball. Playoff OT should be 4-on-4 after the 1st OT period. The size of the goalie equipment is the single biggest reason the NHL has fallen far behind the NFL and the NBA in popularity, and that gap will continue to grow unless and until the NHL either enlarges the nets or materially shrinks the goalie equipment. Any head shot should result in a game misconduct, regardless of intent or whether the recipient was hunched over, with a suspension for repeat offenders. Dan Dunleavy is a good guy and will develop over time into a good replacement for RJ. Jacob Bryson has the 2nd-best offensive skills of any Sabres defenseman. There is way too much GD music and other canned noise played at NHL games. It results in an artificial and generic feel. The goal horn in particular is an abomination.

Such a great movie. Peak Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones.

If the Sabres effectively swap Eichel for Landeskog and Newhook we should build a statue of KA outside the arena.

I’d be interested to know how quickly other vaccines (measles, TB, etc) were adopted on a mass scale.

A failure to bring in a goalie by tomorrow does not mean that no goalie will be brought in. It just means that KA won't have made a move in time for a deadline that may or may not have any real meaning here.