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Or, instead of “them” .... perhaps, another word ... what’s an alternative to “them” when you want something done, some outcome? We have our own The Lost Generation. Survivors not of a World War, but of a culture war. Stripped of joy and purpose and looking for villains and waiting for things to be fixed for them ... even once in a century pandemics bring opportunity to criticize and envy ... everything does, if that’s what you live for. Here’s to the hockey players who made donations, all by themselves, in the fashion and in the amount that they saw fit, knowing better than anyone else the best use for their funds, regardless of how willing others were to offer critique, if nothing else. Oh, and to health care workers, bankers, school teachers and ... parents ... and grocery clerks and truck drivers.

Relax. We can always vilify them and confiscate what we want.

Careful ... you’re leaving the comfort zone of “others should do this” for the discomfort zone of “I’m going to do this”. CAREFUL, careful ... this can be an OTHERS SHOULD topic!

Tom ... TY Worthwhile read ... he’s mentioned in the same sentences with a lot of old time greats ... https://www.vintagehockeycardsreport.com/tom-webster/

You had me at “hello.”

1), above, is among my favorites of all time. Did anyone else see Steinbeck, Fonda or the Joads?

Swan song promise, reneged. I am unreliable and unrepentant, a miserable combination. I have to ask you all to stop using straw man “class warfare” arguments when responding to our friend when he posts about: 1). “31 filthy rich owners, feeling the need to send their players from stricken large cities into the heartland in the midst of a pandemic so a hockey season could be completed and some money could come in”, and; 2). “big business”, and; 3). “players [who don’t] need the money”, and; 4). “the kind of junk the wealthy class talks about ALL THE TIME”. Class warfare, you see, has nothing to do with his complaint. It’s bad financial planning and liquidity management that he’s upset with. He told me, a couple of hours ago, above. I repeat, it’s not class inequity. I make the same error you do when I see his posts. Ugh, how can I be so dumb?! I am not better than what I wrote, as he suggested. With him, “we are the sum of our actions, and therefore our habits make all the difference.” I have the food, shelter, education, health, equipment, time and freedom to post nearly 5,000 times on a HOCKEY BLOG dedicated to a small market team in a second tier sports league provided to me for free by a man I’ve never met. I am privileged.

What an interesting site.

I love that team. Started 1-7-0. Seven games with NJ, some one goal games and empty net two goals. I believe LaFontaine, who missed the playoffs, gets you a goal and a series win. And, yes, I was at the 4 OT game, as Valdermort’s guest. I was wearing a Crossroads Arena lapel pin. Dale H ... 7 games, 7 assists. Check out Dom’s stat lines as the LOSING goaltender in a seven game series. 7 games 3W 4L GAA 1.61 Save % .950 SO 2 Check out the season game by game progress chart

@SDS and @SwampD .... Heartfelt condolences.

Guilty as charged. Well, not quite charged. Guilty as observed. My swan song for this thread ... From time to time we directly, or indirectly, refer to what we believe to be the privilege of others while posting on SabreSpace. Risky, reckless, stuff. There are 7 billion people on the planet. With no math or science backing me, I’d guess that if SabreSpace is part of your regular routine, you’re more priviliged than 90% of the world. Further with my construct, you’re at least as privileged as 70% of the remaining 10%. Now, take human history into account, and I believe we’re all 1% ers. To the extent, and in the sense, that privilege is a burden (I believe it is), it’s a wonder any of us can get out of bed. So, yeah, I see the world as pretty good, which interferes not with seeing that which must get better.

You don’t understand what I wrote. I can’t write more clearly. I am a man of limited capacity. I’ll shoulder the blame. To your direct question, second sentence. Of course not. That’s one of the reasons I never wrote that, said that, or implied that. As with your previous post, after that, you’re on your own. This conversation could be Exhibit A to the problem I “feel”. To wit, the ripeness of mangos can be seen through the lens of class struggle and pointing out that mango ripeness has nothing to do with class struggle results in more conversation about ... wait for it ... class struggle. Bang the drum as loudly as you like. Careful, though ... cacophony misapplied ain’t gonna help the poor. I’d bang the drum more judiciously; perhaps pause and listen to the other instruments. I believe more people will hear your music and you’ll hear more of theirs.

Louis Carlo Franceschetti ...

@Ogre I don’t know if you’re wrong or right. Your second sentence asks a question about a conclusion I didn’t draw. After that, you’re on your own. If you're asking me if seeing class struggle where it doesn't exist is as bad as not seeing class struggle where it does exist, then my answer’s yes. My rationale follows. In both cases, you fail to address class struggle. Edit to add ... I was neither of the two kids you described while growing up. I was closer to one than to the other. I get a little antsy when my view is attributed, even tangentially, to a privileged upbringing. You’re not the first to make this mistake. It’s a not uncommon knee jerk. I can assure you, I can’t be out empathied. If you're seeing a defensive bone, or naiveté, in my body of work, you’re hallucinating. Addressing the speaker with a slur, while missing the idea in play, frustrates debate. I cede no moral high ground. Lastly, the word privilege is important to me. I use it above as it’s used in our culture wars. In any human sense of the word, I consider myself privileged. I am an American born in the 20th century who was raised by honest, loving, hard working, human beings. Kinda makes me say “grateful” a lot, and tear up, a lot.

Maybe the best place for this ... a really good story ... today, yesterday and tomorrow, all in one. One of my sons “hockey camped” here. It is Godly wonderful. https://theathletic.com/1698361/2020/04/06/hockey-progeny-in-a-b-c-town-the-sons-of-5-former-nhlers-grab-the-spotlight/ I hope there‘s no paywall after a few days. @dudacek, @Thorny

My wife’s family. I do not share these genes!

Stole my answer .... I’d GUESS I was lurking somewhere like HF and saw a reference to this place. I lurked here for a long time before posting. I’m not generally shy, but this place was so ... informed, close, balanced ...

Well, yes. Not recognizing that class struggle is real would be as debilitating and dangerous as seeing it everywhere. Fortunately, blindness of the former is an illness. Unfortunately, ubiquity of the latter is a pandemic. Somewhere in between is sanity and rational discourse.

Doers think of doing. Hallelujah.

Well, it’s not impossible for everyone. It may be irresistible for some. And now, back to work. I am not observing the crises from afar, nor am I watching it closely. I’m swimming in it. For the portion of this situation that’s financial, my office is an Emergency Room and an ICU. My people are exhausted heroes. My patients employ your family or are employed by them. I could write an interesting piece about contagion, disability, damage and death that’s not biological. It sure behaves biologically. But, of course, the patients in my story are villains to the self selected aggrieved. Enjoy yourselves, I have the sick to attend to. That is the reason that gratuitous scud missiles vex me.

Well, I have lots of thoughts. I can’t successfully share them with someone who conflates pandemic, rainy day and welfare. Draw your distinctions among the three (and their kin), and the conversations diverge. It’s the goulash that’s nonsensical, no matter how fun or self gratifying.

This is the sort of tortured analogy one gets when one ties everything back to some class struggle narrative. Try this one ... Sally made muffins for the first time, and they failed to rise in the oven .... because ... (Thought starter ... I provided a name, assumed a gender, described a cooking implement and a food category .... you can write PAGES with this)

Too cool ... I quoted PA! Favorite Sabres Moment of 2012 in Archive Posted September 2, 2012 · Report reply Home run clever!

What say old timers about Marcel Dionne? OT, admittedly....