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Who'd have thought, in 2009 - 2010, that Myers and Sekera would go back to back?

Well, for both of us, they did smell good

When a young man, I told a woman in an elevator that she smelled good. She smiled and she said "thank you". The door opened to her floor and she paused before stepping out. Turning to me, with a gracious smile, she said "thank you, again, but you'll make a much better impression saying "I enjoy your fragrance"". Wow good. Wow funny.

Full marks ...,

Forever awesome. I'm grateful!

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." Matthew 17:20 GoDD is moving a mountain.

I'm all in. Time to degenerate the faithful. Rock the Bylsma, rock the Bylsma ... The only coach that matters .....

Agree

6). Fried Bologna sandwiches.

"Buck" Turgidson to Merkin Muffley.

90). An honest effort makes you a hero (unless you criticize us for still craving results). 89). Tops and Wegmans. 88). Underneath all those layers, there's something pretty exciting. 87). Architecture and history. 86.). God lives in Ontario, an 8 iron away. 85). Forty five minutes to anything. 84). Summer and fall. 83). The same guys on the same stools on the same nights. 82). Delaware Park, Artpark and Niagara on the Lake. 81). Youse guys who post here. 80). People with jumper cables who live to help.

Grateful ...

Vanek face.

Request, not an assignment. I've read GoDD's race posts for years. I've always enjoyed them. I'd appreciate his thoughts or impressions. Every year I watch a YouTube video of Secretariat's Belmont. I can't think of a more amazing sporting accomplishment. The humanity, horse notwithstanding. It moves me. I tear up. "He is moving like a tremendous machine" and "he's all alone", the latter a statement, but intoned as a bewildered question. Categorically, the race occupies a space in my memory alone except for the Miracle on Ice. In that space, it has top billing. For those of you who haven't watched, allow me ...

Shhhh .... You're gonna get the whole internet closed!

Abuse aside, I hope he/she gets well. You're on. Just bought it (iBook). Now, you'll have to suffer my slow reading speed. It's on; I'm thrilled.

I've seen that, too. Another cost ... abuse. Agree, agree, agree. P.S. Mill's Harm Theory - new to me.

I'll drop our understanding of the Constitution and rights. I guess the Founders missed the opportunity to say "unlimited" and leave it at that. We're not on different pages, we're on different planets. I will also acknowledge that the inalienable concept, from the Declaration and not the constitution, has its roots in Natural Law. This is broad, of course, and includes life. Natural Law, as it applied to individual persons, informed Jefferson, et al. The conversation around natural persons, corporations and states is an interesting one. My carefulness with the word "right" stems from what I see as error in calling a "good thing" a right. They jus' ain't the same thing, especially when the thought goes on toward "and therefore the state must supply it". That's the REAL source of my caution. Think pursuit of vs. provided. I have no right to FMLA. It's a benefit we, the people, constructed for ourselves. It was certainly passed out of self interest. Self interest doesn't require unanimity. We can have a group self interest without everyone being on board. You read "self interest" as "benefits me only", I think. Legitimate question. If FMLA wasn't the reflection of self interested people acting in tandem, who sent the representatives to vote? Regarding your question about murder, I have the following thoughts. Murder is a crime. It's a really bad one. The people say so (thank heavens and no surprise). Natural Law gives persons the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The people's law against murder trespasses no individual right. The law against murder is Constitutional. So, yes, life is in the Constitution, which contemplated legislation and established the branch of government to deal with it. The rights in the Constitution are the rights of Natural Persons. Thinking, breathing, skipping, living, whistling are all activities or states of being, but not rights in any meaningful use of the word. Living may, itself, be meaningful. I vote it is! We're now mixing two documents, natural law of persons, and the state. See what I get for liking the FMLA? Here's another question for you. If I have unlimited rights, can I kill?

Party line vote is still representative, is it not? The people elected majority parties. Does representative government require unanimous vote? When my party is in the minority, I still respect the view of the majority. I mentioned Clinton by name. This is a law the Democrats can be proud of. As to my limited definition of the word right to those found in the constitution, it includes those you reference because, well, the words are in the constitution. I'm not sure if you're agreeing with what I said and re-stating it, or making some contrary point.

FMLA! A program I can support. I feel giddy. First, let me clarify one thing. FMLA is, in my world, a benefit and not a right. I use the word "right" sparingly, as I've said, and only when the word appears in our constitution. Saying we have a very limited number of rights, and calling them inalienable, frames my discussion of many public good things. Benefits are wonderful, too. FMLA brings me joy because I see an example of the ethical self interest I referred to on another topic. It's an example that escaped me, earlier. That is, ethical self interest can and does lead to collaboration, self sacrifice, compassion, and the public good. Our government (President Clinton and two legislative bodies) acknowledged the desire of citizens as both employees and employers to put rules in to place to provide safety to employees and to provide stability to employers. The government provided infrastructure. The cost of the program is funded by participants. There's cost to the employer in the form of benefit compensation and administration, cost to the employee in the form of lesser wages, and cost to the consumer in the form of higher prices. FMLA is funded by those three groups willingly and without wealth re-distribution. Free markets set the price. I am especially grateful for the aspects that go beyond child birth and extend to illness. I am also grateful for the family aspect that allows for the care of others. Fortunately I've not needed it for illness nor have I used it as a father. I've witnessed its good work, however.

He's got Bylsma at 20:1 at Caesars.

2). I agree. 3). Insight.

I'll say this, GoDD. You may stir the pot so vigorously that the range top and floor need cleaning when you're finished, but you certainly bring the flavor. In a conversation so rightfully focused on Xs and Os, wins and losses, Cups and appearances, I didn't feel like I knew the man until this thread. Whole picture? No. Enlightening glimpse? Yes. I like this guy. I'm still in iron Mike's corner, but I like this guy. Grateful.

It was a complement.

Hoss, you are a machine.