SwampD

I thought we covered this. The game was fixed. Prove me wrong. The NFL is a joke.

Find me one example all year of someone not kneeling and I might buy it, but I don't think it was that. I think they confused the new rule where if nobody touches the ball, it is a touchback.

Nowhere does that appear in the rule book.

It is. And has been for a hundred years.

Well, he did say the most misunderstood call in NFL history.

I’m looking forward to this game. Why was there a 5 day break? Some CBA imposed thing?

I dig this tune. Can't explain it.

Why? Haven't we always been at war with Eurasia, or is it Oceania? I can't keep this stuff straight.

So, here's where my mind goes. Ali Khamenei -"Hey Don. Could you help a brother out? How about you take out my number 2, cu'z he's getting a little big for his britches and prolly wants my gig. In return, I'll send like, five, um, house warming gifts to you,… don't worry, I'll totally let you know when they are coming and you won't lose a man. "You'll look like the steadying figure, and I'll get to claim that I struck at the heart of the big bad Satan. Whadduya think?" Trump - "Like it." Ali Khamenei - "Just remember, Donny, this isn't Iran versus the US. This is you and I versus the proletariat. No way we both don't remain in power after this is over. Allah-speed, my freind" Trump - "I'm in, but promise me I get to put a 36 hole Trump golf course just outside of Tehran after my second term." Ali Khamenei - "Done."

Every part. It was not a penalty. 7 vs 52.

The problem with this line of thinking is that you just described 2/3rds of the teams in the NHL. It’s also the exact the two things we were missing before we tanked. ***** the the Tank. I can’t even believe we are still talking about it.

How'd that work out?

I can't disagree with any of this. I'm just not looking forward to yet another guy (he for the 3rd time) who people had to convince me wasn't good enough or not the right fit for the Sabres, only to see them go be successful somewhere else for whatever reason.

I hope you know that was sarcasm. I think it takes very little and very few people to "nudge" the results of a game, just like WC said.

Yes. The entire NFL. Every single employee down to the lowly office manager is taking orders from the sports books.

Which team was there more money on?

At work. Wouldn't change your mind anyway. I'm baffled that you guys don't remember this conversation. It was in one of the lost Around the NHL threads (2010-2011?).

I'm curious to see how he looks. He can make some pretty plays with the puck. It's him trying to get it that concerns me. Let's hope he's been cooking down there.

It absolutely was a part of it. We hashed it out here. I'm not doing it again as I really don't care. The funniest part was Campbell's excuse, "I didn't think anyone would read my emails from 5 years ago."

That was one part of the scandal. The emails also showed that not only did they know that refs were biased (which is bad enough) but that they were sending them to certain gains because of that bias. If that isn’t trying to effect the outcome of games than I don’t know what to tell you. And just so you know, I wasn’t one bit upset over the Bills loss. Zero. Still not. Read my responses right after the game on why I thought we lost. I didn’t mention the refs once. It was a great game and a fun season, but I think you are naive to think that what I’m talking about doesn’t take place.

He also took two other teams to the SCFs. That would be nice.

I don’t believe it’s every game. Sometimes it is just those natural biases better teams get. And sometimes it’s flat out fix. Why do I watch? I love the game. The NFL has ruined that game and I’ve already reduced my intake of it by a lot. I chose to do other things several times this year and haven’t watched the past 2 SBs.

It absolutely did. How else are you going to be able to lose for that long, just tell your guys to not try? They won’t do that. The Sabres had to not only get rid of their top talent, but some of their mid-level guys to in order to lose for 2+ years. We’re still recovering from that depletion. If having to use Pat Kaleta as a center because their was nobody else isn’t proof enough for you, then you will never change your mind.

Do you really not remember the Colin Campbell email scandal? Really? Good lord. We had a thread about it and talked about it for days here. You must have put it out of your mind because it didn’t fit your world view. As to the Bills/Baltimore game, maybe. I don’t know. I’d have to go back and watch it to see if I even agree with how you saw those plays. If I said yes would it make you feel better. It wouldn’t make me feel better.

Why? Three holding calls on big plays is might be enough. Canada doesn’t count in ratings.