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It’s a possibility once they activate the 5G vaccine and execute order 66.

More hyperbole. Forcing the owner to sell and firing the GM aren’t even in the same universe. The current owner is on his fourth GM already.

Do you think you could find one independent opinion anywhere on the Internet that supports this?

I’m sure he meant it at the time. He made quite a few moves and changes that were certainly made in good faith toward that goal, even if it didn’t work out.

Possibly the single dumbest assertion that has been made during the Pegula years. Go touch some grass.

I thought I was the only one.

Super weird. I watched the video and made note of what he said and what he didn’t say. It’s not an opinion at all.

If you have a complaint for the guy in the video, he probably has a comment section underneath his YouTube video.

I’m sorry that you missed about 30 posts in this thread from earlier. It’s up to you to go back and read.

This has to do with conversations earlier.

Weird that this non-buffalo guy looked at everything that has happened the past five years and did not describe Kevyn Adams as a historical piece of garbage that has proven to be one of the worst general manager in the history of sports.

So it isn’t enough for me to agree with you that he has been a bad GM who should be replaced. I actually have to concede that he has been one of the worst GMs in all of sports, despite the fact that he did better than both of his predecessors? Which I guess by definition they were also historically bad. So the Sabres have been unfortunate enough to hire 3 consecutive historically bad general managers - each one as bad as the previous one. Anything short of that is an unreasonable opinion. Got it.

Like I said, people can bring up statistics to support their point. If you want to view the world as a step function then that’s your prerogative. I don’t. I don’t think missing the playoffs by one point supports the over-the-top nature of the discussion. I don’t think that improving the previous GM’s supports the over-the-top nature of the discussion. I don’t think this is unreasonable. I can say looking where he started and looking where he ended he has achieved the normal level of failure in sports.

As someone who constantly needles people over their usage of words, what exactly is the problem here? Are you saying moving from 25th place to 22nd place is a historically bad run as a general manager?

Point being, in the history of terrible sports GM’s, a guy coming in and being marginally, maybe even statistically insignificantly, better than his predecessors will never justify his characterization here. I don’t understand why we can’t just say he’s experienced a normal level of failure that happens every year, in every sport across the world? His failure as GM is the Matt Ellis of failures.

I get the sarcasm for effect. I don’t see it as that black-and-white. At the very least, both sides could use statistics to make their case. I understand the lack of playoffs and I understand the losing streaks. But if we are talking about Adams and if you agree that he took over when a rebuild needed to take place then we are really talking about at most the last three years. did we miss the playoffs a couple years ago? Absolutely. Was it by one point? Also true. Does that make him a chimp careening off obstacles in the road? Probably not. in this losing streak I think we just lost to two of the best teams in the NHL by one goal. Again, we lost. But we lost by one goal to the very best teams in the league. Is that a chimp careening off obstacles in the road? Probably not. The team has placed irrelevantly a couple spots higher in the league the last two years than any other team in the drought except for the first season after the last playoffs. I think if you did not know his background and someone just looked at the results during his time here, you would conclude he has not gotten the job done, but has had better runs than previous team GMs. I don’t think anyone would call him a chimp.

I am not sure I read your post correctly. But that list contains one first liner and one top defender. I think Reinhart was on the third line when we traded him to Florida. Just hanging in the NHL doesn’t buy you much.

That’s perfectly fine. I don’t wanna win one for Ruff. I don’t wanna win one for Adams. Everybody has an expiration date.

This just seems like an outdated argument. It was certainly relevant five years ago, but I think that ship has sailed. As an NHL GM for five years he is now more qualified today than any non-NHL GM candidate, although the unknown may be preferable to the known in this case.

Sure. But if I was to qualify it, I don’t think there’s a particular impetus on today as if the situation would be better tomorrow. I don’t blame Terry or Kevyn or Lindy for Dylan Cozens turning into a waste. I don’t blame them for Jack Quinn, despite two goals yesterday, for being garbage. We need a top line and a good second line or we need two great second lines. We need more talent and other teams aren’t just gonna hand it over. That leaves the draft and so far we have not hit any Brayden Pointe home runs. We have a fan based that wants results tomorrow and it’s not coming.

Advocating for new ownership is just one of those wishing in one hand, shitting in the other and see which one gets filled first scenarios. To me, ownership changes occur so infrequently, that it’s just a waste of time to constantly bring it up. Regardless of how bad it may feel to not make it to the playoffs, this team isn’t so horribly misplaced from the league that this is seen as a league wide issue that needs to be resolved.

I think you have this backwards. We already know it doesn’t work. If the constraints don’t change, then clearly you have to make a change and hope somebody can make chicken salad out of chickenshit.

You are conflating me with other people arguing this. My position is 100% correct. We don’t know what he would do in an ideal situation. However, you seem to think I am arguing for a continuation. I am not. Adams continued employment means nothing to me. I’ll say this again, I don’t care if he was replaced today. He was a below replacement level candidate who delivered poor results under the circumstances he agreed to operate under. He can go buy a nice house somewhere and shoot squirrels in retirement. Could a new GM do worse? Absolutely. Never challenge worse. Could they do better? Probably since there’s more room to grow than there is to shrink.

This is the only thing I disagree with. I really don’t care if he gets another shot or not. He’s made a lot of money. He’ll be OK if he never gets to his NHL GM potential. Maybe it’s best that he didn’t and he can retire with millions of dollars in the bank with the thought that he could’ve been a contender, instead of being proven wrong.

So, being a GM is a really ***** job. You have to make a valuations on potential where reaching that potential is out of your hands. If you don’t extend Reinhart and he walks you get roasted. If you extend Cozens and he fails you get roasted. Adams is not unique in handing out contracts to players that have failed to live up to them. Regardless, the Sabres are not cap constrained so these are just esoteric criticisms. Those two players could be traded in a heartbeat.