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Can you imagine how screwed this franchise would be if we had any sort of reasonable expectation? Their apparent handcuffs in fielding a cup winning team are notable - I can admit that but its so, so far neither here nor there. If there’s one thing they sabres have been successful at aside from plausible deniability it’s successfully lowering expectations and the bar for success. the saving grace, our beloved excuse annihilator, is the fact we are only asking for a solitary playoff appearance and even the bad teams do that it’s still right there for them..we haven’t all left yet

Marner and Ehlers and Bennett and Ekblad are so far below what an open market would have dictated this summer it’s scary. Players arent chasing the money, they’re chasing the lifestyle and the have-nots are in even more trouble than even palm trees can fix

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Isn't that a Dean Martin song?

It angers me there’s such a built in excuse for Adams We never spend, weren’t going to this year, regardless And here it is Christmas Day for plausible deniability: their greatest strength Vomit Catches breath Vomit

Yep. Samberg too. Hughes in New Jersey, McTavish in Anaheim, there are a few RFAs on the market that are going get good coin. But they’re the exception. Most of the signings are going to be Roslovics or Timmins types getting those types of salaries. And it’s not just the teams behind the Sabres who have space. 22 teams have $2M or more to spend. opening day caps aren’t going to look anything like we’re used to

Hard out there for a pimp, I guess especially if your pimp’s name is Kevyn Adams

I think there is more to it than that. The top teams were able to keep their guys or add because of the riding cap and other teams smartly decided against spending money just to spend money. The movement of the cap is going to result in the most “have” and “have not” era of the NHL since the cap was implemented. I’d have to do a little research but I’ll bet since the pandemic the same twelve to thirteen teams have made the playoffs every year and the rising cap along with players stupidly signing long term contracts will allow this model to sustain itself for at least two more years.

Isn’t Vilardi unsigned over here in the peg? Latest projection i saw was 7.5 mil Add in samberg and kupari to vilardi and they’ll be adding another ~ 15 mil so they should get to ~ 3 mil on space remaining. Think we are on track for about 5

I think the cap went up, free agency dried up, and teams are still in that area of "cap isn't going up" They psyched themselves out

I’m just teasing you, relax im not saying you are defending Adams. I definitely do disagree with you that Norris isn’t viewed as the key “addition”, though, along with Kesselring I can only see a whopping level of faith in the lad when I look at the F group and the lack of moves and also the subtraction there we saw

He comes from good pedigree. His pops averaged 3 goals a season for 16 years. Dude must have been the booger sugar hook up or something. He’s was considered a defensive forward FWIW. Hard to fathom for someone taken 3rd overall.

No dispute over the track records. I’m not sure what you mean by “get there” you expect a majority of the teams below the Sabres to be close to the cap when all is said and done come October? I honestly don’t see how that’s possible. The figure might be dated but Allan Walsh recently said there is $275M left under the cap. Puckpedia says there are 29 roster spots left to fill. That’s nearly $10M per roster spot. The shopping aisles are empty. Teams have room but no one to spend it on.

This didn't even start with you. I listed what we added, that's it. Has nothing to do with you. You then went on a rant about how 2022 Cozens was being replaced by 2025 Norris and I'm guessing that doesn't move the needle for you. There's a bunch of Adams hate in there as though I'm defending in and now it's "oh you're only posting to contradict me" lol

Ya the last time we eclipsed 90 points. Where exactly are you getting lost, here? Presumably the goal is to field a team that’s actually good Isn’t Norris supposed to be our 2C, at LEAST next season? He sure as hell *better* be a key addition dude or we ain’t making any noise It’s not even a matter of opinion - Norris being a key addition is functionally worked into any success of Adams’ plan Your stance is bizarre You get too hung up trying to contradict me for sport and it gets you into trouble

Again, I'm not predicting playoffs. I'm not defending Adams. I'm just saying there's been a few moves.

Cozens hasn't played well in 2 full years. Norris isn't the key addition. He's just one of the additions and arguing he's not is bizarre.

Interesting that they go into the February break with a Florida roadie, and come out of the break with another Florida roadie.

What has this organization done previously to please the fans?

So why are they playing there at 16 or 17?

The reason for that is intrinsic to the player We were a bad team when cozens was playing well, I do find it funny everyone forgets that. The idea of replacing cozens is to re-establish what we had there when he was GOOD - that’s what we need at 2C. Norris being marginally better than a poorly performing player doesn’t get us anywhere, and even this is no guarantee as he struggles to get on the ice at all Being like, “Norris represents the avenue for improvement at F we need if everything goes right with him” DOES sound like Adams and it’s why many called that as the “key” addition at F its possible. It’s not likely but it’s possible, and it’s Adams, very Adams It’s pretty safe to say I think a big part of the reason we’ve seen so little at F *is* because KA has a lot of faith in Norris. We’ll see if he can catch and eclipse the poor Cozens, first, then we’ll have to see if we can make some ground in bridging the gap to the 2C play and improvement we actually need.

Come on, you can do better.

Norris doesn't count. He played 3 games.

Ya I counted Kesselring but people didn’t mean trade a better player for a weaker one when they said change. We can be nice and call it an even swap- we still haven’t done anything to improve Norris was a member of the team last year - a good way to make the playoffs would be to pencil in what we got from him and build from there rather than counting on an unknown disclaimer being I know they won’t do that

This will be a tougher Sabres team to play. We all said they were soft like baby powder. If you can't add name offensive players because they won't play for you, then become that team that other teams hate to face.