GDT: Flames @ Sabres, 7:30pm Nov. 19, 2025, 🎙 📺 ESPN+/MSG

[Thorny]

2 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

The only insanity is we keep saying the same things, ever how untrue they are.  I don't excuse TP, he's clearly failed.  He's made multiple different types of hires, he's fired people quickly with term on their contracts, he's now kept a GM for too long.  Nothing has worked but his decisions aren't close to being repetitive.

A common denominator with all 3 of his GM hires is a low expectation to win in the now 

[PASabreFan]

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

It’s largely a commentary on the roster

i think people forget sometimes that this isn’t the nfl. In an 82 game season the bad teams win a lot of games, it’s that simple 

And the good teams lose a bunch. It’s why I am always poking fun at the extreme nature of the GDTs

Like the players recently said, it’s an 80% league. Of course no one gives full effort every shift, every night. That’s pie in the sky, it’s not human 

the functional difference is the teams with the talent and roster construction to win when they play at 80. That’s not us 

Hence the "the Sabres have the talent" to win, they just don't try hard enough all the time.

[Thorny]

3 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Hence the "the Sabres have the talent" to win, they just don't try hard enough all the time.

It’s essentially the same logic point as injuries re: excuse making 

the idea isn’t to construct a team that doesn’t get injured it’s to build one that has the depth to win anyways 

if you need your roster going balls-to-the-wall to scrape Ws in November, you’ve already lost 

Edited 1 hour ago by Thorny

[Thorny]

The playoffs are the theatre of Will. Everyone is talented, the difference is the men from the boys 

the regular season is a showcase of who’s talent shows up more on a random Wednesday in the dog days of the marathon, cold, regular season 

The regular season is about your lowest common denominator output, that you can’t help but serve up because you are inherently skilled and apt 

[LTS]

I'm so glad i turned this game off when they disallowed the first goal.

By virtue of the Sabres I am now just getting tired of the NHL as a whole. I'm tired of goalie "interference". It's worst than what constitutes a completed catch in football.

Oh well.. more of the same.  Time to check out.

[PASabreFan]

7 minutes ago, LTS said:

I'm so glad i turned this game off when they disallowed the first goal.

By virtue of the Sabres I am now just getting tired of the NHL as a whole. I'm tired of goalie "interference". It's worst than what constitutes a completed catch in football.

Oh well.. more of the same.  Time to check out.

I tried to read the goalie interference rule last night.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Terry has yet to hire a legitimate hockey GM to run hockey operations.   Most of us here knew Adams was not only unqualified, but was his puppet.  Look at his past hires, almost all are out of the league for good.  

Losing the 3rd period 4-0 at home, to the worst team in the league, on a back to back, right after playing their best game of the season - it was predictable and it just happened one week earlier against St Louis.  

The players just do not want it enough, the coaches are being ignored, it’s past the time to flush the coaching staff.   

I’m not sure if the owner even cares. His actions or rather his inactions indicate an apathetic owner. It’s futile to argue where this silent owner’s head is actually at. The indisputable fact is that he presides over a flawed and failed franchise. And this shiiiit has been going on for a generation. 

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, LTS said:

I'm so glad i turned this game off when they disallowed the first goal.

By virtue of the Sabres I am now just getting tired of the NHL as a whole. I'm tired of goalie "interference". It's worst than what constitutes a completed catch in football.

Oh well.. more of the same.  Time to check out.

Yeah, that one was very frustrating.  It was ruled a good goal on the ice, and most of the details lead towards that goal typically being upheld.

Thompson was outside the crease when he was impacted by the D-man which seemed to be the impetus for him entering the crease.  - that usually leads to a goal being considered good.

Thompson appeared to make an effort to not contact the goalie after he entered the crease. - seems to not really impact one way or another the decision in TO.

The contact was mimimal and the goalie didn't seem to get moved off where he was - that usually leads to a goal being considered to be good.

The goalie had time to get squared to the shot before the shot was taken - that usually leads to a goal being considered to be good.

Thompson was outside the crease when the shot came - that usually leads to a goal being considered good.

 

And the Calgary coach was so unsure about whether to ask for the review or not, he burned his timeout trying to decide if it was worth it or not.

 

IMHO, the biggest piece of it was whether the D-man was influential to Thompson entering the crease or not AND whether the goalie still had time to be square to the shot by the time it happened.  Those are what the overseers in that room in TO tend to lend the most weight to.  And both were on the "good goal" side of the ledger.