Archie Lee Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 58 minutes ago, K-9 said: I have to disagree about Lehner. The Sabres got him psychiatric help, including treatment for substance abuse to help with his drinking problem and gave him as long as he needed to get well. I recall reading that Lehner was grateful for the support Botterill showed, even after Lehner was no longer with the Sabres. Quote
Doohickie Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: The Sabres Organization’s support and actions for Dahlin and His Family throughout this entire process more likely to lead to him not asking out. Yes of course. We saw what a difference it made in retaining Ullmark when they allowed him to take a leave when his father died. Quote
Doohickie Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Taro T said: they apparently didn't give Ullmark the support he felt he needed. That's not the way it's portrayed in this article on NHL.com: Quote The [Sabres] organization had been a haven for him around his father's death, allowing him to take every bit of time he needed. It had felt safe, a cocoon in a life and career that had gone topsy-turvy at times. Edited 2 hours ago by Doohickie Quote
Doohickie Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Taro T said: And Carolina must be doing well too. Wouldn't be surprised if he plays the best hockey of his life with that weight taken off his shoulders. Pure speculation: I wonder if maybe she had a follow-up surgery or some other procedure and he felt he needed to be there for her. The procedure went well, she recovered and it's time to return. If it was known ahead of time and there was significant risk involved, it could have been why it was affecting his play earlier, and why he's all smiles now. 1 Quote
Doohickie Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, bunomatic said: That smile makes me think he got his oil changed😘. Welcome back Captain! If you've ever owned a Volvo you know you have to keep up with the maintenance. 1 2 Quote
quill Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: Lindy you of all people should know that any jolt that Dahlin gives this team, as great as he is, will be a short term jolt at best. The real jolt this team needs right now is for Adams to be fired immediately, followed by another jolt if we fail to make the playoffs again where you are replaced as well, as much as I like you as a person. 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Brawndo said: The Sabres Organization’s support and actions for Dahlin and His Family throughout this entire process more likely to lead to him not asking out. This is what a real franchise looks like. Still want everyone from the Eichel disaster shown the door, but at least there’s finally a hint they’ve learned something. I would love to know if Ruff, Adams and TP were all on the same page in letting him go? 45 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Pure speculation: I wonder if maybe she had a follow-up surgery or some other procedure and he felt he needed to be there for her. The procedure went well, she recovered and it's time to return. If it was known ahead of time and there was significant risk involved, it could have been why it was affecting his play earlier, and why he's all smiles now. This makes sense Quote
thewookie1 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Taro T said: Yeah, they didn't give Lehner the support he needed and they apparently didn't give Ullmark the support he felt he needed. Good to see they learned from those experiences and gave Dahlin the support and leeway he needed. Has to also go a long way in inner player circles to dispel the 'wow, they didn't let Eichel get the surgery he wanted, what a horrible place to play' vibes. We can hope at any rate. Wrong, they did get Lehner therapy for his depression issues. The Isles did better though by sending him to alcohol treatment. Ullmark was happy with the Sabres treatment of him during his mourning. He even made note to mention that in his article that the Sabres treated him well but he wanted to get a fresh start in a different venue because it reminded him too much of his Dad. (In part) Besides the whole Eichel thing, we’ve actually had a good track record with treating players well. Tage and his wife were also helped for instance. Quote
thewookie1 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 52 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Pure speculation: I wonder if maybe she had a follow-up surgery or some other procedure and he felt he needed to be there for her. The procedure went well, she recovered and it's time to return. If it was known ahead of time and there was significant risk involved, it could have been why it was affecting his play earlier, and why he's all smiles now. Unsure if it had to be an operation or just merely a very important appointment. For instance, finding out if the heart is working right and isn’t being rejected and thus can start working it some to retrain her body and actually recover. Quote
Taro T Posted 36 minutes ago Report Posted 36 minutes ago 29 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Wrong, they did get Lehner therapy for his depression issues. The Isles did better though by sending him to alcohol treatment. Ullmark was happy with the Sabres treatment of him during his mourning. He even made note to mention that in his article that the Sabres treated him well but he wanted to get a fresh start in a different venue because it reminded him too much of his Dad. (In part) Besides the whole Eichel thing, we’ve actually had a good track record with treating players well. Tage and his wife were also helped for instance. As stated in a follow-on post, the assistance the Sabres got for Lehner was well after he'd gone a long time without help. Get him help when the issues were 1st arising and maybe we see a different result. As for Ullmark, have seen stuff claiming they did provide him with enough support and stuff claiming they didn't. Thus the use of the words "apparently" & "felt." Do hope that you're correct that they were as supportive as he felt they needed to be and it was simply (not really the right word, but hopefully you get what was intended by its usage) his dad passing while the world was shutdown due to Covid and that alone was why he wanted to move on. But wouldn't be surprised if there was more to it; they made him an offer that the Bruins then beat and they offered to then match that; that didn't sit well with him. Quote
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