Doan > Peterka?

[Archie Lee]

I hope as a fan that I never get to the point where I’m so enamoured by a GM’s work that I would defend their every move, even when they make an obvious mistake on a player transaction. I hope the opposite is also true.

I think we fans are generally too quick to want to declare winners and losers in trades. Given the ages of these players, there is a long way to go on judging this one. 

I was not thrilled with the trade at the time, mostly because I thought, and still think, Adams backed himself into a corner and was reacting to a negative situation of his own creation, rather than proactively making a trade to make the team better. I would not reverse the trade today though. Right now, as with the McLeod and Byram deals, I am pleased with the trade on the micro-level, but it has not proven to be very impactful on the macro-level. 

[Pimlach]

7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

In fairness though, Doan is looking more like a bottom 6 guy lately as well. He's fine, but also not that great. 

Still remains to be seen if we won the trade or lost it (and it might actually be even) and we won't know at all until we see more from Kesselring. 

Well, I am not a "won the trade" guy.   

Doan is fine, he is being pushed by getting 1st line and PP minutes.   Doan looks more of a middle 6, than bottom 6 to me.  

Kesselring was the big piece of that trade. 

[LGR4GM]

8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

In fairness though, Doan is looking more like a bottom 6 guy lately as well. He's fine, but also not that great. 

Still remains to be seen if we won the trade or lost it (and it might actually be even) and we won't know at all until we see more from Kesselring. 

See this, this is why I pushed back so hard against your "eye test tells me everything" schtick in the other thread. 

[Trettioåtta]

19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

See this, this is why I pushed back so hard against your "eye test tells me everything" schtick in the other thread. 

No, he's right. Doan is on track for nearly 60 points. Thats low end 3rd line, more like upper 4th line, stats on a playoff bubble team.

[shrader]

7 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

No, he's right. Doan is on track for nearly 60 points. Thats low end 3rd line, more like upper 4th line, stats on a playoff bubble team.

60 points from a 4th line guy? Sign me up right now. What’s the top line getting, 200?

[kas23]

47 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

No, he's right. Doan is on track for nearly 60 points. Thats low end 3rd line, more like upper 4th line, stats on a playoff bubble team.

I just picked Colorado randomly. They have a 3rd line of Goaloffson, Drury, and Nichushkin. None of them have eclipsed 60 points in their careers. Carolina: Carrier, Staal, Martinook. None of them have ever reached 60 points. 
 

Edit: add Tampa Bay. Girg and Homberg. Speaks for themselves. Hannibal Gourde did have one great year of 64 points in 2017. All other years he’s around 30-40 points. 

Edited 1 hour ago by kas23

[Trettioåtta]

47 minutes ago, shrader said:

60 points from a 4th line guy? Sign me up right now. What’s the top line getting, 200?

 

9 minutes ago, kas23 said:

I just picked Colorado randomly. They have a 3rd line of Goaloffson, Drury, and Nichushkin. None of them have eclipsed 60 points in their careers. Carolina: Carrier, Staal, Martinook. None of them have ever reached 60 points. 
 

Edit: add Tampa Bay. Girg and Homberg. Speaks for themselves. Hannibal Gourde did have one great year of 64 points in 2017. All other years he’s around 30-40 points. 

/s

60 points is first line numbers (76 forwards reached that bench mark last year). 

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Trettioåtta said:

No, he's right. Doan is on track for nearly 60 points. Thats low end 3rd line, more like upper 4th line, stats on a playoff bubble team.

lol, well played