Antifa: Domestic terrorist organization

[K-9]

2 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Yes I have. And those acts are part of the same mechanism. They provide a plausible reason to assess.

Although, walking up to a stranger car parked down the road late at night (by yourself) is borderline naive.

Naive? No. Just capable of assessing situations without being governed by paranoia. As much as Trump and the right wing media want to scare us and convince us otherwise, we are not in a war zone and fellow citizens are not our enemies. 

[SABRES 0311]

18 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Naive? No. Just capable of assessing situations without being governed by paranoia. As much as Trump and the right wing media want to scare us and convince us otherwise, we are not in a war zone and fellow citizens are not our enemies. 

Literally nothing of what you said has anything to do with my post. Somehow you equate common sense paranoia.

[K-9]

1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Literally nothing of what you said has anything to do with my post. Somehow you equate common sense paranoia.

Your post seemed to imply that it’s naive to approach a strange car at night. If that is mistaken, ok. But if not, then what I said has everything to do with your post in that there are ways of assessing situations to ascertain threat levels, etc. If you don’t agree that paranoia prevents us from being engaged, fine. And I didn’t equate common sense with paranoia in the least. That is your judgement alone. 

And while my comment about Trump and the right wing media had nothing to do with your post per se and you are free to ignore it,  I stand by my comment nonetheless. He and his admin are fear mongers that want us to be paranoid of each other, that need us to be paranoid of each other. 
 

[SABRES 0311]

16 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Your post seemed to imply that it’s naive to approach a strange car at night. If that is mistaken, ok. But if not, then what I said has everything to do with your post in that there are ways of assessing situations to ascertain threat levels, etc. If you don’t agree that paranoia prevents us from being engaged, fine. And I didn’t equate common sense with paranoia in the least. That is your judgement alone. 

And while my comment about Trump and the right wing media had nothing to do with your post per se and you are free to ignore it,  I stand by my comment nonetheless. He and his admin are fear mongers that want us to be paranoid of each other, that need us to be paranoid of each other. 
 

Common sense comes with life experience. The idea of observing your environment and being realistic about the times we live in should not be a foreign concept. Confusing those simple concepts with paranoia makes people soft targets for criminals.

Same type of people who stare at their phones in public, think complete strangers value life as much as they do, and mix reality with what they want reality to be.

[LTS]

21 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

People naturally distrust groups not like them. Ever watched out the window when a new family moves into the neighborhood or wondered what that car is doing parked down the road late on a Friday night? Congratulations you have a survival instinct which makes you observe things outside of the baseline.

Meh... instinct might be the wrong word but I know what you are getting at.

Example below.

19 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Yes I have. And those acts are part of the same mechanism. They provide a plausible reason to assess.

Although, walking up to a stranger car parked down the road late at night (by yourself) is borderline naive.

A young female walks down a mostly deserted street in a nations capital, 6 hours after darkness falls. She has earbuds in and is staring at her phone.

Is this naive?

In the United States, one might think so.  However, when I was in Stockholm I saw this in reality. There was a street, the only person I could see on it was me and this woman walking toward me. She did not even look up. I don't think is naive but a testament to the difference of crime rates and social experiences. Similarly I navigated the Stockholm public transit system at 2:30am without even remotely feeling in danger.  I would think many times over doing that in most cities.  

It's not so much the instinct but the educated understanding that things work differently here.  The situation is pretty much identical except for the society it happens in.

We learn to fear things because we live in a culture that supports the behaviors we need to fear.  In small towns in the United States people don't lock their doors. They don't fear having their house broken into. 

Common sense does come from life experience. Life experience is highly different for people.

Your experience tells you to always distrust others. It does not mean it's the correct behavior. For the number of people you "don't trust to value life" how many of them actually don't?  There's no way to tell of course. But, you can play the odds by assuming others don't and so this lowers your native trust.. 

We see the news and hear about how many interactions between people end up in murder. What we don't put into scope is the number of interactions between people that day that did NOT end in murder.  We focus on the negative, and without context it drives our perception.

[K-9]

35 minutes ago, LTS said:

We see the news and hear about how many interactions between people end up in murder. What we don't put into scope is the number of interactions between people that day that did NOT end in murder.  We focus on the negative, and without context it drives our perception.

Regarding those many interactions that end up in murder, the majority are committed by people the victims knew and presumably trusted to some degree.