Hank Posted Tuesday at 12:03 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:03 PM What's the point of labeling them as domestic terrorists? 1
SABRES 0311 Posted Tuesday at 02:38 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:38 PM 2 hours ago, Hank said: What's the point of labeling them as domestic terrorists? Whoever Nick Sortor is, he is wrong that ANTIFA will dissolve by arresting anyone who provides material support. Terrorism tends to be based on ideology. In the case of ANTIFA its political ideology as opposed to religious ideology you see from groups like ISIS, AQ, so on. Albeit even those organizations have political interests. Just my opinion on it.
Hank Posted Tuesday at 02:42 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 02:42 PM I guess my biggest question is, what's the long term goal? RICO charges against the Soros brothers, or whoever is funding Antifa in the US?
K-9 Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Will the hypocrisy ever cease? The organized and politically connected Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are every bit the “terrorists” that the unorganized, not politically connected as ANTIFA. And lets not forget Trump pardoned roughly 1,500 convicted or charged terrorists who attacked our capitol, beat up law enforcement officers, and committed sedition by intentionally stopping an act of Congress.
Hank Posted Tuesday at 06:52 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 06:52 PM 16 minutes ago, K-9 said: Will the hypocrisy ever cease? The organized and politically connected Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are every bit the “terrorists” that the unorganized, not politically connected as ANTIFA. And lets not forget Trump pardoned roughly 1,500 convicted or charged terrorists who attacked our capitol, beat up law enforcement officers, and committed sedition by intentionally stopping an act of Congress. While you Trump is evil rant may be true, do you have anything relevant to add regarding the topic of the thread?
LTS Posted Tuesday at 08:06 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:06 PM 1 hour ago, Hank said: While you Trump is evil rant may be true, do you have anything relevant to add regarding the topic of the thread? Why would you feel that calling out Trump for hypocrisy is not relevant? Should it not be stated that the groups that perform similar actions but in support of a right-wing agenda are not equally culpable for their actions and as such should be labeled similarly? I see no difference other than the color of their flag. 1
Hank Posted Wednesday at 01:42 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 01:42 AM 5 hours ago, LTS said: Why would you feel that calling out Trump for hypocrisy is not relevant? Should it not be stated that the groups that perform similar actions but in support of a right-wing agenda are not equally culpable for their actions and as such should be labeled similarly? I see no difference other than the color of their flag. The question was, what is the long term goal? Pointing out hypocrisies and whataboutisms does nothing to answer the question nor further discussion. Does it?
SABRES 0311 Posted Wednesday at 02:12 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:12 AM (edited) 38 minutes ago, Hank said: The question was, what is the long term goal? Pointing out hypocrisies and whataboutisms does nothing to answer the question nor further discussion. Does it? I don’t see whatsboutisms (spelling?) working out. Wasn’t that long ago we were told ISIS was JV. That incompetence resulted in a serious lack of response providing freedom of movement for arguably the most brutal terrorist organization in the last couple decades. Almost forgot, a ton of weapons and equipment getting left for the Taliban. Edited Wednesday at 02:21 AM by SABRES 0311
Hank Posted Wednesday at 02:27 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 02:27 AM 10 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: I don’t see whatsboutisms (spelling?) working out. Wasn’t that long ago we were told ISIS was JV. That incompetence resulted in a serious lack of response providing freedom of movement for arguably the most brutal terrorist organization in the last couple decades. Almost forgot, a ton of weapons and equipment getting left for the Taliban. Don't forget the whacked out approval of people losing their jobs for refusing to be vaxxed, and in the case of some truly deplorable libnuts, the notion that parents should have their kids taken away.
SABRES 0311 Posted Wednesday at 02:37 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:37 AM 5 minutes ago, Hank said: Don't forget the whacked out approval of people losing their jobs for refusing to be vaxxed, and in the case of some truly deplorable libnuts, the notion that parents should have their kids taken away. I lost a guy on my team in the middle of deployment because of the vaccine. He refused to get it, quarantined, deployed, half way through got sent home. Needless to say, when your job is to work in small teams or independent, losing even one guy is significant for ops. Oh yeah, it happened while we were in a not so friendly part of the world. So unnecessary 😂
SABRES 0311 Posted Wednesday at 02:57 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:57 AM 21 minutes ago, Hank said: Don't forget the whacked out approval of people losing their jobs for refusing to be vaxxed, and in the case of some truly deplorable libnuts, the notion that parents should have their kids taken away. You know who else took kids away from parents? Nazis. You know who else made stupid decisions for their military? Nazis You know who underestimated their adversaries? Nazis Hey this is easy. All you have to do is make a comparison to nazis and start throwing it out there. Do I start saying first they came for this, then that, then the other thing, then you, then Barney the purple dinosaur? Are you scared enough now to do what I want you to do because I falsely believe I know better?
Hank Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM 2 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: You know who else took kids away from parents? Nazis. You know who else made stupid decisions for their military? Nazis You know who underestimated their adversaries? Nazis Hey this is easy. All you have to do is make a comparison to nazis and start throwing it out there. Do I start saying first they came for this, then that, then the other thing, then you, then Barney the purple dinosaur? Are you scared enough now to do what I want you to do because I falsely believe I know better? Don't forget that if I'm not sufficiently outraged as an anonymous poster on a political sub-forum of a hockey message board than I'm complicit in all things evil. Say that out loud and hear how stupid it sounds. Totally batshit crazy. What's your theory on how someone can become that deranged?
SABRES 0311 Posted Wednesday at 03:14 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:14 AM 8 minutes ago, Hank said: Don't forget that if I'm not sufficiently outraged as an anonymous poster on a political sub-forum of a hockey message board than I'm complicit in all things evil. Say that out loud and hear how stupid it sounds. Totally batshit crazy. What's your theory on how someone can become that deranged? MSNBC with a dash of purple hair a nose ring.
LTS Posted Wednesday at 03:59 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:59 PM 14 hours ago, Hank said: The question was, what is the long term goal? Pointing out hypocrisies and whataboutisms does nothing to answer the question nor further discussion. Does it? Your initial post was about Antifa being designated a domestic terrorist group and what's the point. This establishes the purview of the thread. Your later post asked a question "what's the long term goal?" The next post did not quote your post where your question about long term goals was posited. Instead it was commentary on the initial post you made. What is the point of labeling them? It's not like similar groups on the right have been labeled. It is hypocrisy. It was being called out. You assumed it was in reference to your question about long term goal. This would be on you, no one else. And there we have it. Then you proceed to take a nice passive aggressive swing at people, which isn't needed. You are engaging in the same behavior of "whataboutisms" and then talking about things unrelated to YOUR initial post. This thread is immediately derailed and I am locking it.
Hank Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago Riots lasted over three months in Portland during Trump’s first term, looks like he learned from it.
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