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Poland Invokes Article 4 After Shooting Down Russian Drones in Polish Airspace


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7 hours ago, K-9 said:

https://apnews.com/article/nato-poland-russia-ukraine-drones-article4-658921ca98eff77e39345041ba0900a3
 

Poland and the rest of Europe understand their history and won’t wait until Russia is at their borders. Phuck around and find out, Putin. 

Good for them. I hope European nations band together with Ukraine and fight. Every nation that borders Ukraine and held a realistic belief they might be next should have been in the fight from day one. Russian forces are depleted, there's never been a more opportune time to put an end to the Putin regime. I hope they seize it. 

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4 hours ago, Hank said:

Good for them. I hope European nations band together with Ukraine and fight. Every nation that borders Ukraine and held a realistic belief they might be next should have been in the fight from day one. Russian forces are depleted, there's never been a more opportune time to put an end to the Putin regime. I hope they seize it. 

So you are playing both sides? Rooting for Ukraine while supporting Trump who is friends with Putin and gave him the opportunity by taking away sanctions that were working and allowing Putin to kill people with zero consequence... also helping Putin by trying to make Zelensky the enemy. Must be so hard to support someone who goes against everything you support.

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On 9/11/2025 at 4:30 AM, Demoted said:

So you are playing both sides? Rooting for Ukraine while supporting Trump who is friends with Putin and gave him the opportunity by taking away sanctions that were working and allowing Putin to kill people with zero consequence... also helping Putin by trying to make Zelensky the enemy. Must be so hard to support someone who goes against everything you support.

This is idiotic. Not surprising, but idiotic. 

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When push comes to shove in Eastern Europe, (we are already way past pushed) will Trump honor our commitment to the greatest international treaty in history and stand beside our NATO allies or will he continue to assist Putin by bad mouthing our partners and sit on the sidelines? Given his previous proclivity to suck up to Putin and being used as tool for Russian aims, my bet is on the latter. Shame.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Hank said:

This is idiotic. Not surprising, but idiotic. 

I dont get surprised by the crazy stuff you love to post. Idiotic is a little too strong, don't be calling yourself an idiot over it though. 

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2 hours ago, K-9 said:

When push comes to shove in Eastern Europe, (we are already way past pushed) will Trump honor our commitment to the greatest international treaty in history and stand beside our NATO allies or will he continue to assist Putin by bad mouthing our partners and sit on the sidelines? Given his previous proclivity to suck up to Putin and being used as tool for Russian aims, my bet is on the latter. Shame.

Article 4 gets the ball rolling by convening discussions. If Article 5 is enacted it would not mean every member nation has to send armed forces. Essentially it calls for the mutual defense with each member doing so how they see fit.

I would be cautious about committing our military forces to that one theatre if it comes to that.

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1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Article 4 gets the ball rolling by convening discussions. If Article 5 is enacted it would not mean every member nation has to send armed forces. Essentially it calls for the mutual defense with each member doing so how they see fit.

I would be cautious about committing our military forces to that one theatre if it comes to that.

I’m well acquainted with the ramifications but thanks for the feedback nonetheless. I’m not necessarily advocating for the commitment of our fighting men and women in any theater, let alone this one. We can certainly come to the aid of our allies without sending boots on the ground but given Trump’s previous denouncements of NATO and his reluctance to condemn anything Putin does, I have to wonder if he will honor our commitment, regardless. 

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