K-9 Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM From defying federal judges to deploying military in the streets to replace local police, this administration shows example after example of fascist ideology. Now Trump’s BLS director seems to favor doing away with the critical monthly jobs report. Withholding, distorting, or creating false information is right out of the fascist playbook. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/12/trump-bls-jobs-report-00505025
Hank Posted yesterday at 08:36 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:36 PM 23 minutes ago, K-9 said: From defying federal judges to deploying military in the streets to replace local police, this administration shows example after example of fascist ideology. Now Trump’s BLS director seems to favor doing away with the critical monthly jobs report. Withholding, distorting, or creating false information is right out of the fascist playbook. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/12/trump-bls-jobs-report-00505025 Defying federal judges - if you're referring to Broberg, his ruling was vacated by the SC. Deploying military in the streets - if you're talking about LA, ICE agents were under attack, Bass wouldn't allow police to assist in a timely manner, Newsome refused to send in the guard. That wasn't a peaceful protest, that was rioting and looting. Trump did the right thing sending in the troops to quell the riots when Newsome refused to do it. Was it legal? I have idea, but I support his decision. BLS director - i agree with you, it looks shady. They say in the article that quarterly reports will be used until they implement a system that will give accurate data in a more timely manner than go back to the monthly reports, we'll see.
K-9 Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Hank said: Defying federal judges - if you're referring to Broberg, his ruling was vacated by the SC. Deploying military in the streets - if you're talking about LA, ICE agents were under attack, Bass wouldn't allow police to assist in a timely manner, Newsome refused to send in the guard. That wasn't a peaceful protest, that was rioting and looting. Trump did the right thing sending in the troops to quell the riots when Newsome refused to do it. Was it legal? I have idea, but I support his decision. BLS director - i agree with you, it looks shady. They say in the article that quarterly reports will be used until they implement a system that will give accurate data in a more timely manner than go back to the monthly reports, we'll see. The defiance of the Broberg ruling occurred well before the friendly SCOTUS covered for the DOJ, whose lead prosecutor and since appointed federal judge, instructed his staff to “F the federal judges’ orders.” The fact that the SCOTUS legitimized the action in the Broberg case is irrelevant, anyway. The DOJ did not follow our rule of law from the outset. The military in LA is not what I’m referring to, although it went against long established norms for deploying the National Guard, let alone marines on the streets of America. I’m referring to Trump’s deployment of national guard troops to patrol the streets of DC as law enforcement. Are you familiar with the brownshirts in 1930s Germany? How about Franco’s use of the military to police and maintain his control of Spain? Classic fascist behavior. I could list a number of other examples, but it would be fruitless. Instead, I will continue to share my concerns Speaking of which, how about some exposure of previously propagated DOGE crap? https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/12/trump-doge-contract-claims-savings-inflation-00498178
Hank Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, K-9 said: The defiance of the Broberg ruling occurred well before the friendly SCOTUS covered for the DOJ, whose lead prosecutor and since appointed federal judge, instructed his staff to “F the federal judges’ orders.” The fact that the SCOTUS legitimized the action in the Broberg case is irrelevant, anyway. The DOJ did not follow our rule of law from the outset. The military in LA is not what I’m referring to, although it went against long established norms for deploying the National Guard, let alone marines on the streets of America. I’m referring to Trump’s deployment of national guard troops to patrol the streets of DC as law enforcement. Are you familiar with the brownshirts in 1930s Germany? How about Franco’s use of the military to police and maintain his control of Spain? Classic fascist behavior. I could list a number of other examples, but it would be fruitless. Instead, I will continue to share my concerns Speaking of which, how about some exposure of previously propagated DOGE crap? https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/12/trump-doge-contract-claims-savings-inflation-00498178 Friendly SCOTUS. Yes, I agree. I hastily said SC when I meant the DC Circuit. I know you're aware it's the DCC. That's my bad. What's interesting about the DCC is that seven of the 11 members are democratic appointees. How in the hell did two of the four republican appointees get selected to a three member panel? Seems improbable. Anywho, the ruled how they did, we'll see if it's appealed. I assumed you were referring to LA because I agree with you there's a question of legality there. I did not think you were referring to DC because POTUS is the commander of the DCNG and can deploy them as they see fit, there's no question of legality there. I'm not sure what their role was, if they worked independently or in tandem with local police. I suspect the latter but I'm not sure. DOGE - I don't need a left slanted POLITICO article to realize I'm disappointed with how it turned out, I got there all on my own. I was captivated by it and was let down. Truth be told though I think it did more good than bad.
K-9 Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Posted 4 hours ago 13 hours ago, Hank said: Friendly SCOTUS. Yes, I agree. I hastily said SC when I meant the DC Circuit. I know you're aware it's the DCC. That's my bad. What's interesting about the DCC is that seven of the 11 members are democratic appointees. How in the hell did two of the four republican appointees get selected to a three member panel? Seems improbable. Anywho, the ruled how they did, we'll see if it's appealed. I assumed you were referring to LA because I agree with you there's a question of legality there. I did not think you were referring to DC because POTUS is the commander of the DCNG and can deploy them as they see fit, there's no question of legality there. I'm not sure what their role was, if they worked independently or in tandem with local police. I suspect the latter but I'm not sure. DOGE - I don't need a left slanted POLITICO article to realize I'm disappointed with how it turned out, I got there all on my own. I was captivated by it and was let down. Truth be told though I think it did more good than bad. The DOGE stats have been published by several outlets. One doesn’t need a “left slanted” article to read the data. It is what it is. Question: Is deploying the National Guard and federal agents to act as a municipal police force the intended use for those agencies? Especially when the reason given by Tump is the rampant violent crime in a city? When actual violent crime is down 25% in that city? Is threatening to deploy NG and federal agents to act as municipal police departments in other cities where crime is also down the right thing? Trump is assembling his own brand of brownshirts. It is wrong on every level imaginable.
LTS Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago The threatening part is what I focus on... he threatens a lot. He doesn't always follow through. Unfortunately I have no clue which way it'll go until it goes that way and the threatening piece of it is what is really sad and scary. As for DOGE, I'm still convinced that nothing more than a dog and pony show to get access to sensitive data on the American public to help facilitate actions at a later date and the whole "fallout" between Musk and Trump is merely a ruse to make people think otherwise. It's all 100% sketchy performed under the auspices of addressing the hard issues while not actually addressing anything.
K-9 Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, LTS said: The threatening part is what I focus on... he threatens a lot. He doesn't always follow through. Unfortunately I have no clue which way it'll go until it goes that way and the threatening piece of it is what is really sad and scary. As for DOGE, I'm still convinced that nothing more than a dog and pony show to get access to sensitive data on the American public to help facilitate actions at a later date and the whole "fallout" between Musk and Trump is merely a ruse to make people think otherwise. It's all 100% sketchy performed under the auspices of addressing the hard issues while not actually addressing anything. He wasted no time in carrying out his threat to deploy NG troops and federal agents in DC to act as a municipal police force. Why is it hard to believe his threats to do the same in Baltimore, Portland, and other cities are just bluster? Many of his threats have become reality since January and given that, we all need go assume he means what he says, regardless of his unparalleled penchant for uttering pure crap out of his pie hole on a daily basis. Again, I urge everyone to read the Project 2025 paper. It is a fascist authoritarian manifesto.
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