Sabres looking for Senior Advisor for Adams and Hockey Department

[LGR4GM]

Reported on 32 thoughts

The Sr advisor must have previous GM experience. 

[Brawndo]

 

[Mango]

This is good but doesn't make sense

You've decided on your GM before you've picked your Senior Advisor?

If the advisor is just there to help shepherd Kevyn into the role, it's too late. It's been like 6 years.

If the advisor is there to lead the hockey portion of the org, deciding on Adams future first doesn't make any sense.

[LGR4GM]

The Sr advisor will report to Adams 

[thewookie1]

Strikes me as Adams is pulling out all the stops to save himself; an apparent multi-day presentation and the willingness to work with someone who has previously held his position.

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Staal is a Ruff man, style, personality and gruff. Small changes but clearly Ruff has an ear to upstairs

[JP51]

10 minutes ago, Mango said:

This is good but doesn't make sense

You've decided on your GM before you've picked your Senior Advisor?

If the advisor is just there to help shepherd Kevyn into the role, it's too late. It's been like 6 years.

If the advisor is there to lead the hockey portion of the org, deciding on Adams future first doesn't make any sense.

Ok, i am gonna defend this... I do not believe that I am going to do that... but I am gonna look on the bright side... I dont think its a show stopper if you bring in a POHO/SA with an existing staff with the purpose of evaluation...  I don't think a person like that would necessarily insist on cleaning house immediately without a proper evaluation... that cannot be done in a couple of months in the offseason...  but if and this is a big if... IF he is given the authority to make sweeping changes etc...  after an evaluation period then I have no problem with this...  if this is just sticking another guy in the room to play good angel on KA's shoulder with no real authority then its lipstick on a pig with maybe a little dress and painted nails... 

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sr advisor will report to Adams 

This is disappointing... if true.  Lipstick on a pig.

Edited 13 hours ago by JP51

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Standing Room Smoking Cigs said:

Staal is a Ruff man, style, personality and gruff. Small changes but clearly Ruff has an ear to upstairs

Or Staal played with Kevyn Adams in Carolina and they know each other well. 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, JP51 said:

Ok, i am gonna defend this... I do not believe that I am going to do that... but I am gonna look on the bright side... I dont think its a show stopper if you bring in a POHO/SA with an existing staff with the purpose of evaluation...  I don't think a person like that would necessarily insist on cleaning house immediately without a proper evaluation... that cannot be done in a couple of months in the offseason...  but if and this is a big if... IF he is given the authority to make sweeping changes etc...  after an evaluation period then I have no problem with this...  if this is just sticking another guy in the room to play good angel on KA's shoulder with no real authority then its lipstick on a pig with maybe a little dress and painted nails... 

This is disappointing... if true. 

Right. I don't disagree with that at all. At least not from a 1000 foot view. But if you, as an owner are evaluating whether or not to keep your current GM. And local reports are that he's close to getting fired.

Why make that decision without the advisor first? 

Isn't that like the entire definition of an advisory role?

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Ok, i am gonna defend this... I do not believe that I am going to do that... but I am gonna look on the bright side... I dont think its a show stopper if you bring in a POHO/SA with an existing staff with the purpose of evaluation...  I don't think a person like that would necessarily insist on cleaning house immediately without a proper evaluation... that cannot be done in a couple of months in the offseason...  but if and this is a big if... IF he is given the authority to make sweeping changes etc...  after an evaluation period then I have no problem with this...  if this is just sticking another guy in the room to play good angel on KA's shoulder with no real authority then its lipstick on a pig with maybe a little dress and painted nails... 

This is disappointing... if true. 

Elliott Friedman reported it. 

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Or Staal played with Kevyn Adams in Carolina and they know each other well. 

Yeah should have thought about that before I posted

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Mango said:

Right. I don't disagree with that at all. At least not from a 1000 foot view. But if you, as an owner are evaluating whether or not to keep your current GM. And local reports are that he's close to getting fired.

Why make that decision without the advisor first? 

Isn't that like the entire definition of an advisory role?

I think they are hiring Adams a support, not hiring someone to overwatch and report to Terry. 

[Standing Room Smoking Cigs]

Clearly still Ruff is the power center now. Adams is being eased out which is kind thing of Pegula, but yeah, it's Lindy's vision going forward for better or worse... The conclave has begun!

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sr advisor will report to Adams 

 

3 minutes ago, JP51 said:

 

This is disappointing... if true. 

So I had this thought earlier. But who is advising who for this role?

In my mind a senior advisor should be a holistic role that faces the entire hockey org. from ownership to scouts to coaches.

But if the senior advisor doesn't have the freedom to change ownerships mind then it's really a bs role acting as another Pegula yes man to hold Adams hand.

Not sure if @LGR4GM has any actual insight into to the role but if you do it sounds like the latter unfortunately.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

 

So I had this thought earlier. But who is advising who for this role?

In my mind a senior advisor should be a holistic role that faces the entire hockey org. from ownership to scouts to coaches.

But if the senior advisor doesn't have the freedom to change ownerships mind then it's really a bs role acting as another Pegula yes man to hold Adams hand.

Not sure if @LGR4GM has any actual insight into to the role but if you do it sounds like the latter unfortunately.

I can only offer that Friedman specifically said the advisor reports to Adams. 

[Mango]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I think they are hiring Adams a support, not hiring someone to overwatch and report to Terry. 

If Adams needs the support of a tutor in year 6 then he should have just been fired.

I know you know this. I'm more just yelling at clouds.

[DarthEbriate]

GM experience, eh...

Who's previously managed the Buffalo Jr. Sabres that Adams would trust?

 

Hmm. The same Eric Staal who recently visibly shriveled on the ice as a Sabre skater and had to be traded after half a season?

[Thorny]

Lol

[LGR4GM]

What's sad is this should have been done 4 years ago.

[JP51]

6 minutes ago, Mango said:

Right. I don't disagree with that at all. At least not from a 1000 foot view. But if you, as an owner are evaluating whether or not to keep your current GM. And local reports are that he's close to getting fired.

Why make that decision without the advisor first? 

Isn't that like the entire definition of an advisory role?

Oh dude, if I were the owner Adams would have been gone long ago and we would have had a POHO... but we are dealing with abject clueless ineptness here... so I dont disagree.. I just dont know at this point that it is a realistic hope with Pegula... he just seems to want yes men 

[Ctaeth]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I think they are hiring Adams a support, not hiring someone to overwatch and report to Terry. 

Going to be tough to find a former GM to play the "Kevyn Adams support role".  Anyone accepting that position... I immediately question their thought process

[JP51]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

So I had this thought earlier. But who is advising who for this role?

In my mind a senior advisor should be a holistic role that faces the entire hockey org. from ownership to scouts to coaches.

But if the senior advisor doesn't have the freedom to change ownerships mind then it's really a bs role acting as another Pegula yes man to hold Adams hand.

Not sure if @LGR4GM has any actual insight into to the role but if you do it sounds like the latter unfortunately.

Yeah, if this is just another guy gonna report to Adams to be his little hockey buddy its Lipstick on a pig... 

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Elliott Friedman reported it. 

Well there goes hope... poof. 

[Mango]

Just now, JP51 said:

Oh dude, if I were the owner Adams would have been gone long ago and we would have had a POHO... but we are dealing with abject clueless ineptness here... so I dont disagree.. I just dont know at this point that it is a realistic hope with Pegula... he just seems to want yes men 

 

If I were the owner I would have walked out to the podium after that palm trees and taxes presser and fired him live on air.

That was as bad a presser as I have ever seen in any professional sport.

Still boggles my mind that the lead recruiter said "nobody wants to come here" and then listed actual reasons why, without any refute.

Buffalo isn't even in the top 10 for worst weather or taxes in the NHL. FAAAHK DOOD.

[DarthEbriate]

3 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Yeah, if this is just another guy gonna report to Adams to be his little hockey buddy its Lipstick on a pig... 

We're going to need a photo/meme of a Wormtongue whispering to a Wormtongue whispering to a Wormtongue whispering to a Theoden

[JP51]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

 

If I were the owner I would have walked out to the podium after that palm trees and taxes presser and fired him live on air.

That was as bad a presser as I have ever seen in any professional sport.

Still boggles my mind that the lead recruiter said "nobody wants to come here" and then listed actual reasons why, without any refute.

Buffalo isn't even in the top 10 for worst weather or taxes in the NHL. FAAAHK DOOD.

He woulda never had the chance to go to the podium if I were there LOL ...