Curt Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: An interesting stat might be has a team that sucks at face offs, and I'm not talking about just losing them 49%-51% or something, but a team bad at faceoffs ever gone far in the playoffs? How bad does it need to be to qualify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Curt said: How bad does it need to be to qualify? The Pens were 28th in the league in face offs in 2017 and won the Cup. Is that bad enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Is the more interesting analysis how closely correlated team FO win% is with game win %? And then break it down by OZone FO win% vs. DZone win%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said: Is the more interesting analysis how closely correlated team FO win% is with game win %? And then break it down by OZone FO win% vs. DZone win%. Or, how about, just try to win face offs and not worry about what fancy stats say? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: How bad does it need to be to qualify? I don't know. I'm just wondering out of curiosity. Are there stats for that available somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I don't know. I'm just wondering out of curiosity. Are there stats for that available somewhere? NHL.com has it for seasons going far back, regular season and playoffs. Vegas got to conference finals last season winning only 45% of their playoff faceoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Sam has a career 37% FOW% (31% in the DZone). That ranks 348 out of 349 players to take at least 400 faceoffs since 2014 (DFL for DZFOW%). If you're around 45-50%, then it's not going to hurt you, but when you start dipping into the 30's, that can be impactful. There about 50-60 faceoffs/game, so for maybe 35-40 of those you're having to immediately defend instead of creating offense. That's not insignificant. Edited April 22, 2021 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Curt said: NHL.com has it for seasons going far back, regular season and playoffs. Vegas got to conference finals last season winning only 45% of their playoff faceoffs. That's pretty good. I imagine that's an exception, but then again they didn't win in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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