deluca67 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 To score 50 in today's game is quite a feat. If he played in the early 90s he'd probably put in 80 or 90 in a season. Imagine OV on the wing with Mogilny and LaFontaine? Or on the Gretzky Oliers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Imagine OV on the wing with Mogilny and LaFontaine? Or on the Gretzky Oliers? He would have scored around 50 goals, back then it was ok to smoke, have a beer or gobble down a cheeseburger during the break :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 OV. I don't think fans appreciate that we are watching one of the top five players of all-time. He needs a Cup to solidify his spot with the likes of Gretzky, Orr and Lemieux. So, if he's top 5, and you are granting Gretzky, Orr, & Lemieux 3 of the other spots, which 2 are you bumping out for Ovie: Hasek, Harvey, or Howe? (Yes, 1 has to be out anyway for top 5, but you're knocking 2 out; which 2?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 So, if he's top 5, and you are granting Gretzky, Orr, & Lemieux 3 of the other spots, which 2 are you bumping out for Ovie: Hasek, Harvey, or Howe? (Yes, 1 has to be out anyway for top 5, but you're knocking 2 out; which 2?) Think you have to include the Rocket there as well. He was certainly the Ovi of his generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Think you have to include the Rocket there as well. He was certainly the Ovi of his generation. Thought about adding him & Howie Morentz to the conversation, but even w/out them, it's a tough row to hoe. And personally, those 2 don't make my top 6, Which is why in a discussion about top 5, I did not include them; deserving though they may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) So, if he's top 5, and you are granting Gretzky, Orr, & Lemieux 3 of the other spots, which 2 are you bumping out for Ovie: Hasek, Harvey, or Howe? (Yes, 1 has to be out anyway for top 5, but you're knocking 2 out; which 2?) I'm knocking out Harvey and Howe. I am becoming a real modernist lately when it comes to sports. I think that most of the average player sin today's game would be stars in the 60's-70's & 80's. Even the lessor tier goalies would be stars in that era. The evolution of NHL players as athletes over the past 20 years, especially in goal, has been phenomenal. I feel this way across all sports. Think you have to include the Rocket there as well. He was certainly the Ovi of his generation. Problem with players like the Rocket is that the level of goaltending during his time was pretty sad. Much like hitters today in baseball compared to the 50's and 60's. I think hitters today would crush the cheese thrown by pitchers from that era. Edited January 17, 2016 by DeLuca1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I agree that the athlete are better now, I think you can only look at how a player dominated against his peers, especially in a sport that has evolved as much as hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Evander Kane. :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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