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23 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
Twitter and Social Media.
Post Game Callers on WGR
Callers to Regular WGR Shows.
To be fair Sam and Jack are two of the better players we've had through this whole tank situation. The problem was other guys didn't step up or got jettisoned out of there too quick and didn't get fair compensation for moving on from them (see ROR and Kane). Yet until we find a bonafide top end goalie we're not going anywhere.
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1 hour ago, Thorny said:
Should I post the results after said tank?
The intention isn't to prove that a tank COULD NOT have worked, full stop (or that a rebuild wasn't necessary) - it's just to point out that, well, it didn't. It didn't work. The strategy failed - the modus operandi didn't end with "acquire Jack Eichel, mission accomplished". It was to both acquire that player and build around them. Unless you want to argue that being unable to build sufficiently around him had literally zero to do with the means undertaken to acquire him, (and the *mentality* required to obtain him, and what that might imply for how the rest of the roster would be treated AFTER the acquisition) I'd say the whole Op failed.
To me the degree of difficulty of said plan was unquestionably upped do to the means of implementing said plan.
We haven't even gotten into how anointing Jack the "savior" may have burdened him mentally. Any and all responsibility attributed to our best player was exponentially increased due to it not only being asked of him, but specifically required in the conception of that plan.
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In short, try to land on a ridiculously difficult runway by choice, and it's a failure of both execution and decision making
Part of the reason the tank failed was we never found a goalie, which we still haven't. Ullmark might be good enough yet not sure I give him top 15 money just yet. I mean how many points did we lose because Lehner couldn't stop a shootout goal? That said the tank was designed for McDavid moreso Eichel. That said not sure even McDavid do us any better as guys like Okposo and Bogo not living up to expectations.
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3 hours ago, thewookie1 said:
I have a hunch, Risto for Miles Wood and a pick.
Wood being a local would give us a high likelihood for the whole "want to be here" idea
Man, I feel old I remember watching his father with the Sabres.
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5 hours ago, Flashsabre said:
Could you imagine: Reino to Seattle for number 2, they take Skinner in the expansion draft after he waives) they pick a couple of players from Seattle after the expansion draft and Skinner being gone opens the door for Brind’Amour to come and coach.🤪😜
As long as we aren't trading assets for Brind'Amour.
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3 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Eichel is under contract and therefore if the Sabres want him, a keeper. The whole herniated disc thing (and how well it's healing or not) may color whether they want to keep him.
Reino is only a keeper if they can sign him to a multi-year deal. If he doesn't want to be here it's in his hands. He can walk after next season. If that's the case, he will probably never have more value than he does right now. If he doesn't sign long term they pretty much have to move him.
I can agree with that. Yet I don't want picks and prospects as to me, we need to get back NHL talent back.
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4 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
No one, but that wasn’t the point of the post. I do not want to include Skinner in an Eichel Trade thereby, reducing the return.
If someone did want to sign with Buffalo, there would be enough space to do so with Skinner still being a Sabre.
I agree, I don't mind losing Risto at this point but Eichel and Reinhart to me are keepers unless someone ends up giving us a top 6 player and more in return.
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4 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
The value of the cap space is infinitely smaller than Jack’s Trade Return in terms of value here though. I do not want to sacrifice a young roster player or prospect for cap space in this situation.
The Sabres already have 32.6 Million in space.
Trading Jack, Sam and Risto opens another 21 Million, before any returns.
Add Skinner to that and You have close to 62.6 Million in Cap Space.
I’m not worried about cap space if they want to go big game hunting.
Yet if lose all those players what big name is going to want to sign here?
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5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
lol, well Reinhart to Seattle would keep me from becoming a Kraken fan 🙂
If we traded Reinhart to Seattle then we better also have them taking Okposo or Risto in the expansion draft as a top 10 pick from and expansion team doesn't thrill me. As none of these kids bring to the table what Sam can in 2021.
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19 minutes ago, pi2000 said:
Yeah that's pretty terrible... replace Eichel with Reinhart and Risto, and now you're talking.... but I doubt CBJ moves on that.
Even that's horrible, sorry I'm not a Jones fan at all.
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18 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:
Offer Seattle Reinhart for their pick and take both.
Horrible move. If we make a trade with Seattle like that they'd need to take one of our horrible contracts too.
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1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:
15-8 power .
Some like it big
or some didn't pick a guy that doesn't exist, as it's spelled Beniers.
4 hours ago, WildCard said:It's pretty apparent we have two different camps on who the Sabres should draft 1OA in 2021; Owen Power or Matthew Berniers. I'm interested to see how heavily the board swings one way or another, so here's a poll.
Check the spelling on Matthew's last name.
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43 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
Okay, I am honestly asking. What is it the Power's has that is elite, will become elite, or is at least on the borderline of elite?
Height? I'm not a fan of Power either, give me Beniers or a trade down and then my short list is Guenther, Eklund or Wallstedt.
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On 6/7/2021 at 12:15 PM, Flashsabre said:
Some interesting updates. The coaches from the WCs are probably Gallant and Nate Leaman, maybe Andre Tourigny as well.
From the NHL they are probably hoping for Brind’Amour but Lane Lambert at the Isles would be a candidate too.
I can't see the Isles letting Lambert go with all the success he's had.
1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:Saw on the hockey future boards quinn likely to be the next coach of the Sabres
Larry Quinn back with the Sabres? Oh hell no. j/k
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Just now, Buffalonill said:
He cost a 3rd
Yet we'd have to protect him in the expansion draft which could cost a better player. Maybe once the expansion draft is done I'd consider it but not now.
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24 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
Has Buffalo ties could be a nice project for us maybe tim connolly 2.0 the good one .
Nope I'd rather keep our #2 overall guys instead of trying to fix one that's broken.
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No matter whom the Sabres pick none of them will be playing in Buffalo in 2022. As a result I don't think Beniers' ankle injury should be a major factor in not drafting him. To me he's the best forward in the draft and in the discussion of the best. I take him over any D-man especially ones (see Power) that are dismissed as #1 Dmen because a lack of offensive playmaking.
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7 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Not caring to trade with LA is insane
The problem with LA as there's no guarantee their prospects be anything more. I want two top 6 forwards back for Jack. That's why think Minnesota a great team to look at as to me Fiala is great starting point since they seem to be strong at LW.
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9 hours ago, Thorny said:
Sorry,
that older siblings always pump the tires of their younger kin and we can't really glean anything from it on it's own
True see Keith Gretzky, Wayne Primeau, Marcus Foligno, Alex Nylander and those are just some of the lesser brothers the Sabres drafted I can think off the top of my head.
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5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:
We will see how it goes - this number 1 pick is great.
And if Eichel gets traded to Anaheim or Samson to columbus we can still add Forward talent.
If we trade Eichel and Sam we're in trouble, personally I want both here unless one of them brings two top 6 NHL forwards. Not prospects but bonafide NHL talent.
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8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
We're not drafting Power.
Matthew Beniers.
He's the consensus top pick and am okay with him as could give us a #2C if Reinhart ends up elsewhere or shifts back to wing.
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42 minutes ago, dudacek said:
What would you say to Fiala, Dumba and Rossi?
The only way I take Dumba is if we move Risto somewhere else. I would consider Fiala, Dumba, Boldy and Rossi more equal.
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17 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:
It sucks everything we built is going to be gone.
It's not, I've said it before if Eichel is shipped for more than prospects and picks we can likely convince Sam to stay maybe a good winger or two to help him out.
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I've already seen several of my favorites since was so late in posting. Yet I'm from Kenmore so my favorites growing up were Bocce and Franco's. Yet as a teen spent a lot of time on Hertel so ended up liking Bob and John's La Hacienda. At work in my late 20s I was introduced to La Nova. Then I started dated a girl and now married to a girl from South Buffalo and when at her place we'd do Imperial. Now in my 40s we live in Tonawanda and our go to is Franco's.
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12 minutes ago, Thorny said:
Right. And we also can't do what Botterill did, and pretend that we can take Fiala and Ekiksson Ek's production and plop it right down into the Sabres lineup. It'll go down, just like the production of players removed for a low talent team have their production generally go up (see: Hall)
What we'll get is an Eriksson Ek who puts up 30 in 82 rather than 30 in 56, and we'll be trading an Eichel that produces more on other teams than he has here
I agree when trading Eichel you likely won't get his production from one singular player unless we unearth another Forsberg like Quebec/Colorado did in trading Lindros yet that's why you try and get a combination of players to make a more complete team. I mean look at Briere he did produce at a higher level until he came here. It's possible Erikkson-El puts it all together and becomes a 1C here if not we still have Reino that might be coming into his own and a developing Cozens. Yet Erikkson is better than Mittlestadt and Fiala is better than Okoposo. Boldy could be than Girgenson etc.
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Even after we traded for him we later traded for Fuhr. You have to wonder how'd things go if had Andreychuk and 1st Rounder we gave Toronto.