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Those forwards have taken a massive step back this year with the Granato. If you think he deserves credit for improvement he deserves the blame for the falling play. DC was a 5 to start last year and maybe got to a seven by end of year. He is at best a five now. Krueger was right about skinner. We will not make playoffs with him on team taking up ice time and loafing around. As long as he is here players know there is no need to give max effort. The team has no plan when a game starts. No preparation for the team they are playing. He is terrible at matching lines to the point where i don't think he considers it. Our Dman look like they are not coached at all. No gap control, if there is a defensive zone coverage system, then it changes every shift. Power play is the same thing every game and easy to plan for. He must go. His replacement must be a disciplinarian type coach.

Tuch has played... a lot like Skinner. Leaves zone too early, plays on perimeter, not physical etc... We need guys in room holding others accountable. Have given up hope this coach will ever do that.

he is not a poor back checker, he is a non existent back checker. Our dman struggle with the puck in our zone due to skinner, and others, leaving the zone and not giving options. He is a bad guy, bad player and we have zero chance of making playoffs next year if he is on team. Only thing Kruger got right was Skinner is a dog and should not play. Worst signing in history of Sabres. Worse than Leino. Hopefully they have made decision to buy him out and that is why they are dropping him in lineup. With Quinn back, he should not dress so he does not get hurt and screw up the buyout.

Krebs make little money and plays below avg ice time amount. Skinner is high paid and a negative every time he is on ice. He needs to be bought out after this year. We work under an internal cap anyway and this will not keep us from spending more money.

me too. Sad he passed away. poor one out....

you might be only person outside him family who thinks he is a very good player

We have all watched him play. No one will trade for him at even 50%. He is deficient in all areas of the game except cheating to score an occasional goal. Bad on power play, cant kill penalties, does not compete, is not tough, never in own zone long enough to be considered bad. He scores when on bad teams and is a bad guy to have around. One of the few things Kruger got right was benching him.

We will never win with him. Horrible influence on team as he floats around and competes when he feels like. These numbers are Palatable

this is a good trade. Was hoping for it. Byrom >>>>> Mitts.

I think this is a certainty. As of a couple years ago sabres had lost 300 million since he purchased team. That number has only gone up with no line of sight to either profitability nor winning. Lord help us when he passes away. Not sure there is an angel owner to keep team in buffalo. Not one fortune 500 company HQ'd in Buffalo. Population dropping fast. Taxes going up. Houston Sabres? KC Sabres. Would rather keep sabres than bills...

the only sabre who is untouchable is Dahlin. Everyone should be on table except him.

pathetic to lock the skinner thread.

This article makes it sound like he is multiple all star. He plays way too much on perimeter. This idea that he is tough is silly. "Los Angeles Kings center Quinton Byfield tried to intimidate one of the Sabres’ defensemen last week, only to be shoved so hard by Greenway that Byfield moved several feet toward the Kings’ bench. When rookie winger Zach Benson was hit from behind Wednesday night in Montreal, Greenway delivered a viscous cross-check to put the Canadiens on notice." Evidence he is tough is shoving a guy and a cross check. That does not make you tough. When we play tough teams like Islanders and Carolina, where is he? Where is he when teams target Dahlin? If one produces at his level, in order to be tough one must fight more than 8 times in a career. He is not tough, intimidates no one, does not produce and does not fight. He is a good penalty killer? He has 9 goals on the year. 9 goals on a bad team.

and krebs gets to play with him and we criticize krebs.

it is sickening. watch Granato press conferences. He kisses their butts. Says their names back to them when they ask question. They do not challenge him when he says BS.

watched Yzerman whole career. He was clueless in defensive zone till bowman. He focused on it so much he was not scoring for a couple months. Whole team fed off of Yzerman sacrificing offense for D though. Started scoring again as part of team instead of his individual skills.

sorry for back to back, but i want Peca for next year. I have taken to watching Granato press conferences. He is a complete toe suck to media. Uses their first names, philosophizes to keep them on his side. Media should be all over him at this point. Asking very pointed questions around him saying same thing game after game with no buy in from players. He has no strategy game to game which is why we get killed for first ten minutes., has clearly lost players and has no idea how to fix it. A very bad coach.

in Detroit, Yzerman completely changed his game for Bowman to become a relentless 200 foot player in order to win the cup. He struggled for a bit and then became a top 5 player in the league after changing his game which he never was before. He had a lot of points but was incomplete player. Perrault was Bowman's best player and, well I liked watching him, but his 200 foot game was less than ideal. After watching Yzerman do that I wondered if Perrault could have done same thing...

She is looking for attention. Professional victims are all over.

What does he bring again? Besides miss a good chunk of the year his play has been uneven at best. Part of that is lack of defensive commitment from players/coaches, but some of that is on him. Beaten one on one regularly. Standing around. Bad gaps on rushes. Not physical except for riding guys off puck more than being physical. There is difference between being injured and hurt in pro sports. Injured you can play through, but if you are hurt you cannot play. If you are a soft player injuries take you out of lineup and you get reputation for being soft especially from other players. I bet players are already talking about his softness. Players on Sabres especially. Dahlin plays injured all the time. Compare him to Samuelson: Dahlin plays more minutes. Dahlin is much more physical. Dahlin is targeted for physical play by other team as he is our best player by far. Blocks shots etc... He does not miss much time.

Schoenfeld played a very physical game and fought people frequently from what iI remember. Mule is not physical, does not fight and plays in a much less physical era.

He is really soft. Twoish years in league and he has missed what, half available games at this point? We knew there was risk in that long term contract but good grief he should be injury prone at end of it. Odd how he keeps getting hurt. He is not overly physical as he rides guys into the boards but is not throwing his body around recklessly. Blocks shot, but so do many defenseman who do not miss time like him.

This. We gave big ice time to guys who never earned it. Now power and samuelson are struggling with basic defense. We have always needed a couple vets to play with dahlin and power. especially power. he has taken huge step back this year.

Need a new head coach who holds players accountable. Two games in a row where Mitts has gone brain dead and given up puck in own zone for a goal. A period of watching for something like that is appropriate, but Granato throws them right back. We play with zero emotion or effort. Perimeter play for all forwards except Thompson who sometimes drives to net. We have some good young players who desperately need a strong hand to guide them. Instead we have a philosopher coach who has zero strategic or tactical skill. He clearly has lost the team as they do not respond to his challenges

doent even remember topic. The percolate comments are gold