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Interested in the return.

I think seeing how the NFL goes, considering they're trying to be a semi-normal thing, will be good evidence for the NHL. If it goes well, maybe they have new considerations. If it doesn't, I'm glad they're thinking of this bubble plan early.

Larsson, and it isn't close. Good player. Center. Fit. Chemistry with current pieces (Okposo). Bringing back LOG (even if it's just LO, and G is filled by someone else) would be good, and in conjunction with a 2C move would transform into amazing.

Yeah, why didn't Simmonds use his veteran leadership to heal Eichel of all injuries....? Also, who said anything about Simmonds 'saving the team'? This is misrepresentation-city today. Yes, they do need better players, who's disagreeing with that? Yes, if I were to add bottom 6 grit, it would be like priority #8 on the list right now (in fact, this will started as a line in a larger post I made about acquiring better players...?) I'm also not 'spelling out' your point of view at all, which seems to be a pretty childish one. Me: "They should add grit to the bottom 6" You: "If adding grit is so important, why didn't we win? Why didn't that one suggestion fix all the problems" Me: "???"

Responses above, and I'm done with this one. You see little or no value in adding grit to the bottom of the lineup; I do. Nothing more to be done.

It's completely unearned confidence in untested management, but I think if there's a Monahan+stuff for Reinhart+stuff, our stuff isn't going to be as crippling as Sabres fan were accustomed to under Botterill.

I wouldn't add Simmonds, specifically, again, mainly because his spot on a roster I'd speculate is where Okposo plays. I'm very interested in Kyle Clifford, however.

Where did I call this add vital? Where I was say it was a focus? I said need. That doesn't sound like the importance or urgency you want to represent my point as... Where the hell do Frolik and Sobotka come into this? I feel like you just want to make a larger point about focusing on acquiring talent rather than fringe compontents, and in doing so are just misrepresenting the hell out of what I've said. Or are you just really yearning to debate someone, and here I am?

These one-liners are cool, but the fact is, we can't know. They played 7 games, and Eichel was playing injured in all of them.

I'd say neither are really comparable situations to the Simmonds add though, and context matters. Dalton Smith was brought up because Cernak elbowed Dahlin, played 90 seconds, and that was it. No prior NHL reputation or experience. Steve Ott replaced our top line center. It wasn't really his addition that was the problem, it was what was given up. Adding a Simmonds for cheap as a 4th line banger who has a history of having his teammates backs, and also abundant NHL experience? I'll take some of that. I'd prefer the add to also still play (Kyle Clifford), but it's still an element we need.

To be clear, I'm in no way blaming Eichel. However, you asked me why we had our worst stretch after the trade deadline. I'd say that was why.

Preeeeeeettttty big difference between those two names. One had a great career, one played 90 seconds...

Samuelsson - Jokiharju shutdown pair Samuelsson - Borgen get-off-my-lawn pair Sameulsson - Montour/Miller balance 3rd pair Several options...

I imagine any Reinhart trade scenario would be sad for Jack, but so was Kane, Moulson, and Bogosian. If hypothetically Monhahan and Gaudreau are coming back, Gaudreau particularly having played with him on Team NA, he'll rebound pretty fast. I'm sure Jack wants some help from the office, and doesn't want to hear talk about futures (neither do the fans right now). I'm also pretty confident that Jack wants to win here, because he'll get a lion's share of the credit, and he's definitely a guy who attacks a challenge. He just wants guys around him willing to battle ("We need veteran toughness"). Wayne Simmonds wasn't an add people who follow analytics enjoyed, but I thought he was the perfect add to morale, and they need to do that again this off season.

I wouldn't do 8+Reinhart for Monahan, let alone add Olofsson... Reinhart for Monahan is a deal I begrudgingly do, because we need the center, and Reinhart won't get the chance to be one here for whatever reason.

Agreed, Monahan + LG return is a good plan, if he can execute it. guy Eichel guy - true 1st line, will face opponent's best d guy Monahan guy - offensive deployment; must feast LOG - deploy vs opponent's best o Mojo remainder line - you get another defensive center here (Copp) and we're in business! balanced deployment Could be our deepest forward comp since late 2000s.

Love what Samuelsson and Borgen will eventually bring us. Can't move those guys. They'll bring that toughness we've lacked forever. Jack will love them too.

Hope it happens. Hope the 'tentative agreement' was this.

Yeah, the idea of getting Monahan is significantly more exciting to me....because Eichel.

Signing Granlund with the idea of center would be another Leino move. I’d be pretty depressed about it.

He was so arrogant about his success last year too.

Some all shift videos are out there on Holtz, but can be tricky to find. This breakdown did a good job of illustrating the Alex-Nylander-vs-Vegas-defensive-positioning that I find hiliarious, though: He's my 9th guy lol. (Ahead of Perfetti, who I think is overrated).

Well, I think any chance of Monahan involves losing Sam...I'm not pumped about it either, but if this stuff is real, we're going to lose something we like. I also have this unfortunate feeling that Gaudreau is getting tied into this maybe-speculation-deal as a mandatory component (meaning we can't just acquire Monahan solo), which of course means a higher price tag.

Sure, if you don't mind though, I'm going to cheat and just re-post my thought's from HFBoards. They're almost 2 months old, but I'm still at the same exact place: "Whether or not Holtz will succeed here will come down to his personality, and coaching.He’s extremely raw in fundamentals. His defensive awareness is hilarious, and he does have a Laine-eske propensity to shoot from the outside, without Laine’s talent that makes it work.If he has that self-improvement personality matrix, and we actually coach him properly, his elite traits could make him a better Olofsson.However, if he has an Alex Nylander personality, and we develop him like we did Nylander, he’ll bust hard.Better to pick a better all around player, better fit, and someone who we won’t have to rely on our own coaching to develop as much. Anton Lundell, come on down." I'll add that I don't think he's one of the 8 best players. Me personally, I think these are the best 8 players. Alexis Lafrenière Quinton Byfield Marco Rossi Lucas Raymond Anton Lundell Jake Sanderson Tim Stützle Jamie Drysdale

Really hoping we hold onto this pick. As long as we don’t take Holtz, I think this pick will be a fantastic add. I do seriously hope they’re considering Lundell. If neither Raymond or Rossi fall, he’s the guy.