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Still stickling on the fine details of the thread title? It’s time for you to graduate.

Complaints on social media/Facebook, parents defending their babies and without knowledge of what’s really happening, sounds like today’s world alright. Some people are just terrible parents because they won’t have the hard conversations with their kids.

Why was the father involved at all? Why not talk to the young man directly? Treat him like a man and he might decide to act like one.

Good information. Defensive scoring could go up if Byram shoots more, and if Power’s shot gets better. Both could get better. Some players will shoot better, for example I assume 19 year old Benson has worked on improving his shot. So we will need several players to score over their career averages again, like Thompson, Tuch and Cozens did two years ago.

An old saying was “it takes a village to raise a kid”. If that was me as the kid, I have no doubt more than a few of my neighbors would have talked to me about my driving speed and the risks. That would have been enough to get my attention and for me to correct myself. I realize today things are different and parents defend their little angels. Lawsuits, distrust of police and of authority in general, guns and violence, petty arguments, it’s out there everyday. Talk to the boy like he is a man. Explain the situation. He just might get it. Do it right and you could be helping him and the entire community.

No way am I hung up on the "big trade or a medium trade" jargon. The Sabres had a massive hole to fill with Mitts gone. Krebs showed us he is not ready for 3C. Neither are any of the prospects so far. Acquiring McLeod was big for this team, if people think that is a bad reflection on the team I won't argue that. Savoie is not yet a top 6. He could be a star with the Oilers someday, or he could be a Tyler Ennis type of player, but the Sabres were strapped with a need for a veteran center and McLeod was the best Adams could do at this time.

The Mitts-Byram deadline trade was a big one IMO. The McLeod trade was important to replenish the center spline and trading a 7OA 9OA top prospect is no small matter. The thread title may not be to your liking but the topic of "Mitts and Savoie vs Byram and McLeod" is certainly a good off season discussion. I can't wait to see what Lindy does with this group. No nodding of for me. Muscle Weight!

Ok fellow old fella', 1. Malenstyn acquired for a 2nd rounder in trade 2. McLeod and Tullio (AHL) for Savoie Zucker, Abe-Kubel, Lafferty were FA signings. Much of the discussion is the deadline trade, Bryam for Mitts. McLeod is the finishing portion of that trade since we got a center back. Evaluate: Mitts and Savoie vs Byram and McLeod. Are we better?

Good luck on the rehab. Not to make light of the situation but on the humorous side, the Alfredson Protocal and the Ultrasound Shockwave Machine sound like things from the Bat Cave, circa mid-60's Batman and Robin.

Ok, I get it. But it should not take too much for this roster to get better results than last year- and I still believe a lot more hinges on the play of UPL, Thompson, and Cozens than say Malenstyn, McLeod, and Zucker. Ruff will add an NHL worthy system, and will hold them accountable, and the new players will add some speed and grit. While I have never been very excited about the Byram for Mitts trade, I am looking for him to play up to his lofty draft status of 4OA, and so far I do not see anything close to elite in the limited time he has been a Sabre. If Byram does emerge, then we have to figure out how to re-sign him, and I guess that could be a good problem too.

Why doesn't he put something out and ask all his former Patreons to re-patriate?

Ok @Thorny, which part do you disagree with (the most)?

They have been effective at losing. Effective at fan alienation. Effective at being a destination that no one wants to go to. Effective at offering jobs to unqualified people. They have done all these things with pretty good efficiency too.

Well looking at the moves this way is quite interesting. Mitts > McLeod ; but at least McLeod brings top end speed and faceoffs and playoff experience Skinner > Zucker as a pure goal scorer; but at least you can say Zucker is a better 2 way player and more versatile and brings playoff experience Lafferty > Okposso; Lafferty brings more of what we need, at this stage of his career Kyle is essentially done Girgs - Malenstyn; this is a wait and see move, they must really like Malenstyn, Abe-Kubel > Olofsson; Olofsson is the more skilled scorer but Abe-Kubel brings much more of what we need Byram > E Johnson (and R Johnson and Bryson); not much to discuss here Riemer > Comrie ; He better be Ruff > Granato; Granato and his staff were badly exposed last season and every coach in the league knew how to play Buffalo by the end of the 22-23 season Add this up and you can see a step forward assuming: (1) Byram is actually good; (2) Zucker and McLeod can bring some offense along with their experience; and (3) the 4th liners click and take some starch out of the opponent. This alone is not a lot. Ruff is a bigger key. Improving the PP, improving the PK, improving home ice readiness and record, win by locking down on leads. All things Ruff can do, and things that he needs to bring back to Buffalo. Still, given all this, the roster changes are not that deep and a playoff season will more likely hinge on strong seasons from UPL, Thompson, Dahlin, Tuch, Cozens, and Power, along with continued growth of JJP, Quinn, and Benson.

I feel that Lindy's role is to get us to the playoffs and bring back credibility. After that he turns it over to Appert. Adams put Appert behind the bench, not Lindy.

The combinations of Jost/Robinson/ Girgersons/ Okposso /Olofsson are simply non-playoff. Moving on was long overdue.

Adam’s is NOT turning over every stone and he is still operating under $$$ constraints. Get that straight first and foremost. When the player and agent side says we never talked, then I believe that they never talked. Whatever scenario you want to dream on how that happened, it really does not matter. Adams lied (exaggerated) about the veteran coaching search too. He never talked to Berube, McClellan, or Gallant either. He had one “veteran coach” in mind.

Nothing I saw so far says that trading Mitts for Byram upgraded this team. After 3 games Byram became just a fancy version of Joker. I still don’t see how we can pay Byram the kind of dollars Power is getting. Assuming they think Byram is at that level, which so far I don’t. Byram starts with a clean slate under Ruff. I’m watching.

But he didn’t get $7M, he got a reasonable contract that Buffalo could have easily paid. But Buffalo never talked to him. Which is a really big reason to question if Adams has a clue.

We already had the 3rd line center who was capable and skilled enough to move up to 2 or 1. We will see how good Byram actually is this season, if he is really good then signing him will be the next challenge. Seems like a roundabout way to build when what we really needed is a stay at home RHD. We have puck movers (Dahlin, Power, Joker, Johnson).

I will always like Lindy and he is an upgrade to DG. I did NOT like the “coaching search”. Very amateurish overall. This is a hire the guy you know to placate the masses, and then set up your AHL guy to take over. This is as much about getting Appert ready. Lindy didn’t bring in a staff. If Lindy still has it, it might work out. These “return to the glory years” type of hires rarely do work out though.

Good (for Adams), but incomplete. Not sure we are a playoff team, still need to see the Lindy impact, and everything still hinges on “the Core” and UPL.

What is wrong with Chautauqua? Beautiful place, excellent venue, and people are people. Wasn't the attack on Rushdie at Chautauqua coincidental to Chautauqua? Hegemony? Why do you bring this up. This is a concert, not a world war? I am lost with this post. Were you unprepared because because you were concerned about socio-political things instead of preparing to hear good music? @That Aud Smell, Poor grammar aside, this reads like another language. So much labeling and stereotyping. Not at all what art/music is supposed to be about. This is concert thread. Who are you going to see and how was the show - Why can't it be that simple?

Dream about the Sabres? Uh no.