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Now who was it that told me at the end of training camp that they should trade him because he would definitely be picked up on waivers? Come on fess up, I forget which one of you it was but I know you're out there...........................Was it you el tigre? Wish I could remember.

idk what is going on in E Johnson's head but I look at a guy like Clifton and have to wonder. Sure he came to Buffalo because they promised him a starting job (he was 7th D in Boston) and they paid him 3-4 times what he was making there so of course he came but he isn't anything like what I saw in Boston. There he was a fearless hit leader and he worked his butt off all the time. Here he floats like the rest of them and only throws a hit occasionally. Gets caught out of position (in fairness that happened in Boston too but forwards covered for him) and is basically an ineffective bottom level D man. It's like something happens to you when you get to Buffalo and you realize you no longer have to be accountable. Some sort of laziness or lack of interest creeps in and you just laugh all the way to the bank. Lack of accountability from management/coaching Lack of accountability to the leadership core (if we even have one) Lack of accountability to the team and the jersey Lack of accountability/concern with what fans think of them It's just rotten through and through.

It's an interesting question and I have said there's no accountability here at all and there hasn't been since Pegula got here if not before. Maybe Bylsma held some players accountable I don't really remember, and Kreuger tried but lost the team quickly for a variety of reasons but certainly not now. Besides Olofsson, the constant whipping boy, who ever sits after a performance that sucks? Anybody? Not really. I watched 3 games tonight (ya, I'm hockey crazy). Bruins game was outstanding. Both teams gave it, both teams rallied at different times, there was no quit anywhere. Lots of intensity on both sides. Then there was the Sabres game where their D just spotted us an early one with a walk through and then they took over and coasted to a route. No effort from the Sabres and hard to judge on their side as it came pretty easy. Then I watched Philly New Jersey. Philly wins again in a tight even game of contrasting styles. Farabee had an outstanding night after apparently being benched the night before by Torts for lack of effort. That is accountability. Risto works his ass off and actually stays in his lane like wtf? Philly the hottest team in the league in December and their goalie Hart is out sick for most of it. Sabres just seem to have absolutely everything wrong and they are ruining young talent one after another in their fancy country club locker room. Players like Dahlin say they love it in Buffalo and why wouldn't they? They get to relax in a 5 star resort and nobody makes them work for their pay. Life of Reilly (not Ryan O). The franchise is a joke. Maybe the truth is some hockey player bullied Pegula when he was young and so his secret mission is to destroy the team forever. Job well done so far.

This is true, and I've talked about team defense for years (it was the "easier" part according to Meatballs) but I don't put the blame on Power. I put it on a team that expects a kid his age to come in and be a team's number 2 D man right away. It's an absurd concept to say the least.

Well part of the problem (only part) might be the "captain" was back on the bench smiling about scoring a goal when the game was 7-2. As others have said though it does reflect an incredibly low bar (and it's somewhat delusional).

Maybe they need to build a second crappy room, like an outhouse, and then just show them pictures of this one and say you get the treat when you earn it.

The cleaning out you have to do before the colonoscopy.

You know the Sabres are like a flaming bag of poop left on my doorstep. I foolishly stepped on it, the fire's out, but I can't get the stink off my shoe.

Welcome to Pegula hockey. Lots of goals and next to nothing physical. Only problem is most of the goals get scored by the other team. This was beyond garbage. I watched the Bruins/Wild game first and that was a really good hockey game. Fights, hits, saves, scrambles. goals, right into OT. The difference between the two games was like night and day. This was SO BORING AND UNINSPIRED IT WAS RIDICULOUS. No pride, no effort, nothing. They should have loaned Benson to the World Junior team to let him go try and win something rather than hanging around this garbage learning to accept losing. It would have been good for his development to remember it does not have to be like this.

Oh well I was just talking about goalies in general but fair enough. Thing is, Comrie isn't anything anyone would want so it's a non issue.

I honestly can't believe this. If he was really looking for a goalie there were many opportunities over his tenure and he didn't make any big moves in that direction. To think he'd switch gears now and make a goalie move just doesn't seem likely to me. Common sense said they should have added a better veteran goalie than Comrie and most people here think he has done a poor job on goaltending but I think he will remain steadfast on his letting the kids grow together thing and that includes Levi and UPL as his goalies.

So the Sabres press announcement would be that they are very excited that this young group is only 2 games off last year's pace and has a vastly improved penalty kill. Trust the process.

Considering all the goalies who have moved around and switched teams through trades and various other deals over the last 3 years I'd say it was like rolling a pair of dice knowing they had to come up double sixes or you lose. I suppose we should be happy Murray didn't waive his no trade clause or Adam's goaltending botchery would have been even worse. As is, it's pretty bad though all the same.

You SURE about that? I doubt it.

Which is exactly what he always was. All those stats people who threw out diagrams and numbers claiming he was some sort of untapped gem were just blowing a lot of smoke and living in denial of the fact KA screwed up goaltending on this team and we all have to pray now that Levi and/or UPL will somehow rise up and save us.

He's made about 4 million dollars from being an NHL hockey player if I have the numbers right for doing basically nothing of value. More money than most people on this board will ever have. I feel absolutely nothing for Jacob.

Well sure, but you don't expect 4th liners to be "good" do you? You want them to not be a defensive liability, maybe chip in on the PK a little and have at least one guy in the unit who will stand up if/when teams take liberties with your talent. If they can disrupt and/or bang the opposition around a little, throw them off and get under their skin all the better, then they are a good 4th line. If they chip in offensively on occasion as well, then they are gold.

We still have Olofsson.

At 71 is Martin the oldest coach in NHL history? Who gets hired next, Don Cherry? He's only 89.

It's always been easier to fire the coach(es). The usual failed build/rebuild goes something like new GM, keeps coach and changes some key players but then fires that coach after a year to bring in his own guy, then fires that coach, maybe one more, then he gets fired, rinse and repeat until you get it right. GMs generally get 2-3 coaches before they get axed. Deconstructing a roster of players is always harder.

I think it's questionable and I do think he pulled up and didn't hit as hard as he could have but I can accept what you're saying as well. It's definitely on the line and maybe over it. He's not a repeat offender though and Lindgren was fine, just a little cut off the corner of his helmet. He played the rest of the game. So I think it looks worse than it was. No big deal. I still remember a league where hits like that were not only legal, but encouraged. They put in the automatic icing only because too many D men were being crunched face first into the boards as they went back to touch the puck. One of the things in today's game that leads to less and less hitting is now that anything on the numbers is considered illegal guys turn to the boards without fear and thus occasionally get crunched. Back in the day when I learned hockey we were coached to not fully turn to the boards to avoid that possibility. The game changes constantly and one thing always leads to another. Eventually it'll just be all non contact.

Well on this we agree. Murray did go too far, made poor choices, and also drafted poorly with the picks he had. You do need both and I've also said Adams has to use some of his prospect capital now as tradeable assets. Not ALL of it, but some of it. He does not seem to concur and it is a mistake. So yes, coaching has been a problem and management has been inadequate and that's the case right back through this entire Pegula era, which is why I have also said that's the real problem.

Not even close to what I said. The bottom of the roster has been a disaster last year and this year. In contrast you take Philly, who everyone said would be much worse than us but they aren't, and they built one of the best 4th lines in hockey by signing DesLauriers (yes, maybe an overpay but still signed and a last off the ice leader type), I think Poehling was a waiver pick up or in their system not sure, and signed Hathaway for reasonable money. Built a line fans love and it starts most of their games and often gives teams fits playing against them. KA re-signed Kyle and Girgs woo-hoo. Get the point ? I only mentioned Fasching because I noticed he has regular NYI minutes and they are better than us right now too. Carrier obviously stuck in Vegas, So, doesn't have to be those names. Could have signed Perron or others but he didn't. That's the point. If you believe the construction of this roster (particularly the bottom 6) is correct and a good plan well good for you keep believing and attacking other posters who disagree. But you are wrong.

Come on man, it wasn't very hard and it was off the shoulder. He shouldn't have followed through and he made contact so it's the 5 and a game and that's fair but if you're thinking suspension go watch figure skating.

Thriving in their respective roles. They are all bottom end guys but they all play with effort and character, which is what a lot of people keep pointing out we are missing, that's all I was saying. Yes, they are easily replaced.............but oh wait, KA didn't feel that sort of player was valuable or he couldn't get them to come but whatever the reason they were NOT REPLACED. (Robinson seems about the same as Fasching so that'd be pin step one in the right direction) As for the pipeline, he had the picks and he traded the picks for those key pieces and veterans. The point was, it's not all one or the other but it's hard to do all things at once. If you think KA is right and it should be all pipeline first and add veterans later good for you. I disagree and the results so far do as well.