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  1. Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

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    21 minutes ago, kas23 said:

    I keep seeing these charts with defender X de jour being compared to Risto and have to ask myself “why would a GM want Risto so bad??”

    It's the great conundrum of the charts. For Gardiner and Ristolainen...  Gardiner is on the ice with Tavares, Matthews, or Kadri, while Risto is going against Tavares or Matthews. Gardiner might face Eichel, but for matchup purposes is probably getting starts against Sobotka, Larsson, or Mitts. I would hope Gardiner's chart looks better.

    For many a GM, all you have to consider is the athlete and the cost. You can leave it to your coach to properly use, motivate, and worry over the IQ stuff. You can always fire your coach (depending on your org structure). And if you look at Risto as a computer game player model based on player ratings (minus Off. and Def. Awareness), he's a stud.

  2. 2019 Free Agency Thread (Non-Sabres)

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    Just now, Curtisp5286 said:

    I would be a little surprised if Aho was traded.  1) He can’t be traded in the next calendar year.  2) He is due to make something like $21M in that 1st calendar year.  

    So after the first year, Aho’s contract will actually be rather cheap.  Doesn’t really help to trade him at that point.  He’ll be owed only about $21M over the last 4 years.

    Oh, I mean in the final year or so --- he'll be a deadline or draft day move before his next contract --- because if he continues upward, then he will be a 10M+. Purely speculation.

    What @shrader said. Beat me to it.

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  4. 2019 Free Agency Thread (Non-Sabres)

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    1 minute ago, Taro T said:

    Would've been interesting to see if the Canes would've matched an offer at the upper end of the 2x1, 1x2, 1x3 compensation bracket.  (A smidge over Aho 's $9.5MMx5 original ask IIRC.)

    They've looked even sillier with their 'we let the other teams set the market' garbage at any rate.

    IMHO, expect that they would've let him walk for a 4x1 offer.  Really don't have a good feel for whether a $9.5MM-ish offer would've been matched.

    Exactly. If they had full knowledge of Aho's original asking price, a good play was to match that, or even exceed it by a super narrow margin, knowing CAR had already balked. If 9.5x5 was too much for CAR, then offer 9.7. The extra 1st round pick is a loss, but if he's your guy --- make him your guy. Show him you love him! Montreal played too conservative in this respect.

    That said, now Aho is on the market sooner and is likely to get traded as well (ROR style with Colorado).

  8. Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

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    3 hours ago, Curtisp5286 said:

    Details on Capfriendly.  Kadri, Calle Rosen, 2020 3rd for Barrie(salary 50% retained), Kerfoot, 2020 6th.

    Well, Kadri is moved. Barrie is a UFA after next season. So... Toronto gave up  Kadri for 1 year of Barrie. And Colorado retained salary.

    Also for RFA Kerfoot --- if TOR can sign him. Now would be the time to offer sheet Kerfoot, I suppose (if it's legal to offer sheet someone who has just been traded). Toronto still has to get Marner under contract and only has 8M in space. If any GM likes Kerfoot for a Johnsson/Kapanen style of a ~2.8 to 3M bridge (a slight overpayment)... or give up a 2nd round pick.

    Colorado really just didn't like Barrie. What are they going to do with Makar in a couple years? Move him, too?  But they did get their all around 2C to help out McKinnon.

  12. Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

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    Just now, shrader said:

    There's plenty more to come from that organization when the owner refuses to pay the going rate for just about anything.

    Carolina and Ottawa are purely being run as feeder systems at this point. Sure, on occasion they'll be a bunch of jerks or get a Hamburglar (Binnington-esque) goalie run to get into the playoffs, but they're not going to be poised to sustain anything because they're not going to offer market-price second contracts. That means we need to pillage from them.

    (coincidentally, we have the Hamburglar now)

  14. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

    Except, Olofsson played LW on the Eichel line.  Housley bumped Skinner off that li e, not Reinhart.

    Ach! My bad. I even looked back to give you the ol' "Darth knows best" and there it is... 3/28 L DET (OT) Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart. So....  yeah, Vesey's a 3rd line LW on this roster.

  15. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    1 minute ago, WildCard said:

    He plays LW, he'll be behind Olofsson and Skinner

    Yeah -- I see he's listed as LW in some places, but he played RW for the Rangers last year. But yes, if he's LW -- he's behind Skinner and Olofsson, except Olofsson played RW in his callup last year to get top line fun. I treat wingers like TIE fighters --- just throw 'em wherever. But as a center, I fly in the middle of the formation... preferably within a trench.

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  16. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    1 minute ago, ... said:

    If he's slated for the first line Botterill needs to be fired immediately.

    I don't think you slate him for 1st line. But those things will sort themselves out --- Kessel ended up a 3rd liner in Pittsburgh for offensive balance. The questions he needs to answer for the summer are: Does Vesey's addition as RW put Thompson in the AHL where he belongs? Does Vesey fill the Pominville gap? etc.

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  17. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    2 minutes ago, nucci said:

    Because he chose Rangers over Buffalo? Wouldn't you have? 

    On a 2 year entry level deal, two years ago? Absolutely he made the right move coming out of school. Now he's got the chance to pull a Skinner and up his value before becoming UFA. He's just got to deliver. Maaaaaybe he and Jack are really good together, and Vesey can keep up with Jack and Skinner as Pommers couldn't for an entire season. That opens up Reinhart to be the RW on his on line.

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  19. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    Ok --- so he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener (hopefully 3rd for us) that replaces Pominville at half the cost. Essentially a winger for Mitts or ERod this year? Or our mysterious Risto-acquired 2C if that player can generate and carry on his own. For a 3rd round pick. Sure. I'd like a bit more sandpaper though and boardwork from our wingers.

  22. Jimmy Vesey Traded to Sabres for 3rd in 2021

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    19 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

    Cheap at least. Someone has to be on the move right? Only so many third line players a team can have...

     

    Vesey can't escape the pull of the Sabres

    If Vesey only knew the power of the 3rd round pick. (We have a new one each year... we can keep him -- or get him back -- forever!)

  24. 2019 Free Agency Thread (Non-Sabres)

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    10 minutes ago, Taro T said:

    Take Duchene off that roster as well.  Dzingel too.

    Still liking that roster?

    I love what Kekalainen and co. did last year. They went for it! And took down Tampa doing it. But if they lose all their UFAs they're down to Jones and Werenski. (And a handful of good vets, but you're not building around Foligno, Atkinson, etc...  does Kekalainen start listening to trade offers for those guys as soon as this deadline and start a ... rebuild?)

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