Hoss
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Its the same with every team though. all teams have prospects and guys that are going to develop and could turn into legitimate stars. Only difference is most teams will continue to build around them and get better while Buffalo takes the wait and see approach hoping that everyone develops and can just use what they have to build a winner
Sure, but we've got the deepest prospect pool. I think it was hockey prospectus that said we have the best prospect pool of any team since the early 90s. Every team has prospects, but there's an obvious difference in level of prospects and amount of them...
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Over that 18 game stretch I can see, AT BEST, 4-10-4. That would put us 5-18-5 with 15 pts in 28 games. Still don't think neither will be fired.
I honestly think we'll be somewhere around 10 points at the end of November. Something like 4-21-3 which leaves us with 11 in 28. But I'm also so pessimistic that I could see them stealing a couple games and ending up with something like 6-16-6 and making their way to another late top 10 pick.
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Five, six, eight years...........let's not get carried away.
Not getting carried away. I legitimately believe it. I think in 3-4 years the team will be back in the playoffs, 5-6 years it will start being a legitimate threat and 7-8 years they'll be competing for the Stanley Cup. It's hard to project how our talent is going to develop, but we have so much of it that some of it HAS to turn into legitimate NHL players.
This is coming from a guy who always used to say no Buffalo team will ever win anything. I'm the extreme pessimist and don't think either team ever really gets anything right. But the Sabres have too much young talent not to do something.
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If you're firmly on the "tank, fire Darcy, fire Ron" bandwagon, you should prepare yourself for the middle of November. We have Boston tonight, then a relatively weak four game slate (Florida, Tampa, Dallas, New York Rangers). But then there's an absolutely brutal stretch that we may not get a single point out of: Ducks, Sharks, Kings, Ducks, Kings, Leafs, Leafs, Blues, (Flyers are next and weak), Wings, Habs, Leafs, (Devils are weak). We may not get five points out of the month of November.
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You had me up to here. There are almost *no* examples of trading the first overall (any?), and especially in a draft that is reportedly rather weak. The Sabres should be trading for 2015 picks, even though that puts them a year further down the road for the rebuild.
I think they should be getting picks in both drafts. They've had so many picks in the first two rounds, why not continue to load up? That way in, say, six years when the team is successful you'll still have an excess of young talent that you can deal at the deadline. This team will win a Stanley Cup within eight years if they play this right.
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Does anyone else find it mildly humerous that we have been awful, I mean a-w-f-u-l yet we still don't have the worst winning percentage in the league?
We actually do have the worst winning percentage (10%). Just not the least number of points.
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Imagine what we could get for Ott? He brings the toughness of Brown and at least 400,000,000 times the skill. Ott has to be worth a first and a solid prospect.
We could easily end up with 4-5 first round picks this year, but that's pointless. We should be acquiring some more prospects that are closer to being ready to play at an NHL-level. Maybe some guys that are already here. Ott, Vanek and Miller could easily bring in first rounders in their deals. That would give us 4, then we have 3 seconds that could be used to trade up. Basically, we should end up with the first overall pick no matter what because we should have an excess of picks that we could use to move up.
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Except again, Darcy is late to the party. Why wasn't that implemented last spring when the Sabres were in 2nd to last place and everyone then was advocating a tank drive, especially on a shortened meaningless season. That I think is what pisses fans off the most. Always Darcy is late to the party and can't pull the trigger soon enough. Same applies to the statuses of Vanek and Miller... late again. They should be gone by now with some young players taking their place and high draft picks anticipated over the next 2 years as part of their deal. P.S. Might as well keep Stafford, at least he knows how to make tanking happen.
Seriously, why couldn't Miller and Vanek follow Stafford's lead at the end of last year???
This is essentially the same team, but they ended up crawling out of the bottom last year. Hopefully it doesn't happen again this year.
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I thought the stats released today that Ronnie has 8, count them 8 regulation wins (ROW) in 41 tries was pretty telling. I didn't like the hire when it was made, and I definitely don't see anything redeeming in his style of play to change my original opinion.
I do look forward to ROW #9 though. Feels like Florida might be their best chance. In years past, the Sabres seem to play better against the Beantown Bullies. So maybe they squeak a point out of Bahstan before they go on their Florida swing.
Imagine a 3 point week.. Baby steps.
It's too late for baby steps.
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Before or after the season started?
At this point in time.
(Before the season, I would've guessed we were around 80 points. Now I see more between 50-70).
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Shhh don't tell anyone this but the Sabres aren't drafting 1st overall unless they win the lottery. I can easily see this team drafting 5-7th... they are very quietly becoming a real team... mums the word.
They looked foolish against Vancouver, and had one solid period against the Avs. I wouldn't say they're looking like a "real team" by any means. Then you factor in the fact that talent will be moving out near the deadline.
I love draft talk but how freaking depressing is it that we need to start this discussion in October?
However I have complete confidence that the idiotic Sabres will win 13 of their last 20 games and end up with the 7th pick in the draft. Because we all know that's what Buffalo does.
I like talking about it even if we're playing well. The conversation is just a little different. More about guys in the middle/end of the first than the guys at the top. I just enjoy the draft and the process of it.
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What about this? http://forums.sabres...006-2014-draft/
Ah shoot. Hiding on the second page. Assuming a merge is on its way. I hope some other fans can get a bit more excited and into the discussion. Sabres haven't had a top 5 pick since '03 (Vanek) or a top 3 since '87 (Turgeon). The only silver lining I can find is these facts.
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So... I don't think it's too soon for this. Figured we could start soon, so more posters will know about the future picks of the Sabres.
Also, if you have a twitter, follow Kris Baker (https://twitter.com/SabresProspects). Always tweets stuff on the draft such as:
Kris Baker @SabresProspects9m
Draft stuff: Reinhart no goals last five (13gp 7-16-23), Perlini pts in 11/12 (12gp 12-14-26), Dal Colle 8-game pt streak (12gp 8-11-19)
Right now the first pick of the draft would likely be Sam Reinhart if we had it (youngest brother of Max/Griffin). A few good reads on him:
http://fansided.com/...t-kootenay-ice/
http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=685953
Other possibilities: William Nylander (son of Michael), Aaron Ekblad (d-man so unlikely at the top for us).
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To make the playoffs, you only have to average 12 points every 10 games. The good guys picked up 3 this past round. The math is not favorable at this time.
12 points every 10 games is about 97 points. So that's not true, because the bottom of the playoffs is generally around 92-94. But I get your point.
Somewhere around 19-51-12. I see them in the 50-60 pt range.
Sounds about right. I see anywhere between 50-70 points.
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So what does everybody think our final record will be? Or at least how many wins?
I was looking at the schedule to see just how long of a shot it is that this team could make the playoffs. If they went 36-18-18 the rest of the way they'd barely make the playoffs if at all hahaha. Brutal.
I'll put the final record at 24-45-13.
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To hell with the contract, I want Grigs to play. The 4th line does him no good IMO. I'd even be in favor of loaning him to a KHL team if there was one interested *eagerly awaits the panic*
I like the idea, too. But that's a risk that an NHL team would never take. If he snifs success in the 2nd biggest league, he might just stay.
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I don't know whether to be happy Adam seems to still have vitals, or horrified that calling him up could legitimately improve the team.
Lately I've been thinking they should just send Grigorenko back to the Q (even though it's a 100% waste of a yearon his deal (but so is playing him on a talentless fourth line) and then calling up Adam. Let Adam be that fourth line center who occasionally goes up on the third.
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I'm not convinced they would hold true to that when they're staring down the barrel of some major dollar signs.
Well they blocked the plans that would've brought them millions in the first place. So they've already decided it's not the course it wants. The area would have to spend millions in renovations and improvements to the area so they may not really make as much as it sounds.
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Did you read the entire quote? The Rose Bowl for a couple seasons while the new stadium is being built. The group in charge of the project are already looking into teams with leases set to expire.
Pasadena has already said they will not welcome a temporary NFL team to the Rose Bowl. So that's out of the question.
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That's going to be ready in one offseason? Yea, totally. Considering they've been working at it for years now and it hasn't even started.
I'm not saying the team couldn't move to LA in the future. But right now, it's in Buffalo and won't be leaving in a single offseason.
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1. is wild speculation with nothing to back it up.
2. Los Angeles
3. See LA Dodgers for how quickly a sports franchise can be sold. Exhibit B is the Buffalo Sabres.
When Ralph dies it may very well take awhile for the ownership to change hands. It may take a few years. So maybe the timeframe is longer. But it surely isn't guaranteed that it will be a long process. And when that process ends my opinion is that the Bills will have a new city and a new name.
Oh. Los Angeles has an NFL ready stadium?... If they did, they'd have a team by now. And the Dodgers are a desirable asset that didn't have to be moved. Nobody is buying the Bills with the intention to move them without first gaining all of the necessary pieces to move the team which just aren't in place and won't be for a few years at the earliest.
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When Ralph dies all bets are off.
Sure. But chances are they'll wait out this lease either way.
And if Ralph Wilson died this offseason they wouldn't move the team immediately for multiple reasons.
1. Ralph Wilson is considered one of the pioneers of the NFL (NFL/AFL merge more specifically). So they likely wouldn't just take the team immediately out of pure respect.
2. You can't move a team in one offseason. Especially with no other NFL-ready stadium.
3. You need buyers. Unless his family already has buyers and is waiting for him to die, that will take a while.
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What on earth is this based on? The Bills can walk in 2020 for a nominal escape fee.
This post illustrates why adults generally don't find the assurances of kids that reassuring.
Okay. At least seven years. Definitely nothing going on within the year, and that was my point in the first place...
Also, in what world is Cowboys Stadium an open air stadium? It's a dome with a retractable roof...
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I really, truly believe that it is inevitable that the Bills are leaving Buffalo. I'm not sure it is as close as next season, but I can't see the team staying with an outdated stadium and the lack of corporate support in western NY. Maybe that is part of the reason I am not emotionally invested in the team any more. I don't think they are here for the long haul.
The Sabres on the other hand, have an up-to-date facility and an owner committed to Buffalo. And there really is no better market for hockey that doesn't already have a team. I can't see the Sabres leaving.
I can assure you that, if ever, it's AT LEAST a decade away.
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"Deepest," "one of the deepest." Whichever. Some say we have THE deepest, some have us among the deepest. Considering hockeysfuture (for one example) had us as the EIGHTH deepest BEFORE the draft or acquiring Larsson/Hackett... There's not a lot to be excited for in Buffalo, but if you try to deny that our prospect pool is incredibly deep and talented then you're trying way too hard to be negative...
Not saying we've planned that far ahead. Hence why I said "if they play this right." Not hard to understand. If they make sure to keep the prospects that turn out to be legitimate NHL players and don't hold on to the busts too long.