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At the end of the day they were the better team last Monday and came up inches short of winning that game. The Bills are contenders but they’re not alone.

Thank you for providing evidence that he does not have 22 rape allegations.

He does not have 22 rape allegations.

First drive of the second half for Rodgers: 2 for 2 for 22 yards and a TD. Hopefully he figured out the Washington defense in time for @Buffalonillto be happy.

I think Ian Rapoport knows more than you. He’s 19 for 23 with 168 yards and 2 touchdowns.

No, I don’t think he’s even considered it.

Ian Rapoport says the expectation is Watson WILL be traded by November 2nd (the deadline) and he mentioned Miami, Carolina, Philly, Denver “and others” as being involved. The most notable part is he says the expectation Watson would play for his new team this season because he will not be placed on the commissioner’s exempt list.

The second-to-last drive might be what cost them the game and it was entirely on Josh. He had multiple first downs wide open but just chucked it into tight coverage deep hoping to end the game. He needs to learn a long, effective drive also ends the game.

The tone of the original post is funny because the Rossi talk is almost entirely led by OP.

Good call 😆 that’s odd.

I’m curious: if Jack gets the surgery he and the doctors he’s working with believe is best for him is it possible he’d owe the Sabres some of his bonuses back?

Read the interaction again. I never said it was Sabres approved. The original post never said it was Sabres approved. I was just noting that it is indeed doctor approved even if the Sabres doctors allegedly don’t approve it.

It’s pretty clear they’ve lost goodwill.

Your position will always have to do with you being a fan. It doesn’t mean your position is right and mine is wrong. My position will also always have to do with my being a fan. Our experiences always shape our positions. But I also never advocated for trading him just to end the situation. Read it again. I said they should do it as long as there is a reasonable offer on the table and there may not be. The Sabres could actually be thinking the exact same way I am and still not have what they view as a reasonable offer to execute. Jack’s surgery is doctor approved. This is all garbage straw man.

Until you stop using obnoxious language towards posters you should not be commenting on language by other posters.

I knew I’d get steamrolled for it (this is a Sabres fan message board, we’re all fans), and what Dark said in response is a good retort, but it’s just a nasty situation that the Sabres have both the power, control and ability to end. It’s long been time for the Sabres to move on. I completely understand wanting to get the absolute best return but as long as there are reasonable deals (unclear if there are) the team should accept less and move on. It’s morally right by Jack, the team and the league. At the end of the day, this is absolutely going to cost the Sabres a lot of respect and recognition among players in the league. Is the cost of dragging this on worth the difference of a trade return available now vs what you’re demanding? You better hope so.

Fair points.

The Sabres are the bad guys here. That can be okay if you’re into “winning at all costs” (even though this team won’t be winning any time soon). They have someone who wants to get treatment for a serious injury and serious pain he’s dealing with and they’re refusing to let it happen. They’re demanding that he get a treatment he is not comfortable with and therefore prolonging the pain and injury. There’s no other way to see that, in my opinion, than the Sabres are the bad guys. It’s immoral. But it’s also standard practice in sports.

I do not believe there have been any rape allegations. From my recollection of allegations so far the worst account is that Watson coerced one woman to perform oral sex which is certainly horrible but the use of the term coerced vs forced seems to be an important distinction. Another woman says he hit her hand with his penis intentionally. Beyond that the allegations mostly seem to be that he was creepy and has a fetish - asking massage therapists to focus on his inner thighs and butt which I’m still kind of battling whether or not is even an issue. Trying to be sensitive to these alleged victims but most of these allegations seem to be women who heard he was being sued, remembered him being creepy and joined in. People should not treat their massage therapists like this but in every massage I’ve ever had I’ve had my inner thighs and butt massaged without me asking.

Nope. A report that trade talks are essentially dead so Jack’s camp is throwing medical opinions at the Sabres trying to get them to approve his choice.

Definitely not. Page 328 started on Tuesday.

Watson has never really been in danger of never playing again. He was always going to be back at some point. Unless more allegations come out that put it beyond what is already known. What he’s done is predatory and wrong but falls well short of the many things other players have been penalized less for. I’d guess he’s back before the end of the season.

Yes, he will.

What’s fair and what’s real are definitely two different situations right now. I agree with you in that this is what it should cost to get Jack, but it’s not what it will take.