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I disagree, Doan will not go anyway for less than a multi-year deal and i think $4mil would be a fair price for him. I think 4 at 4 per year would work

It is $3 mil, not $2 - which makes a difference for a grinder. But he is still worth it in my opinion. Again, we are not saying we don't want Ott, we are saying that just because you need something doesn't mean you have to overpay to get it. You can still get what you need and then some if your asset is better than theirs. They gave Ribero up for a 2nd/decent prospect. Roy is at least on par with him.

I agree, we do need them. But we had major issues scoring last year, which people seem ti forget - not to mention the fact that it always feels like we have surplus of mediocre players. I just feel people don't realise the weight Roy has on the trade market. He is not a rugged forward, but he does put up points and has worn a letter multiple times. Moreover, i think people have a habit of making up a back story (locker-room cancer) and running with it. I imagine he feels a bit like Ryan does, whenever a trade happens it is always him going the other way. I also don't like the idea of trading/signing someone and then giving them a letter instantly, it just seems cheap somehow. They might be a good leader, but trust and respect is something you earn and very few people in the lockeroom will know the new guy

GPG - 0.14 for Goose and 0.17 for Ott He maybe more physical, but my point was not to say they are the same, but to point out that whilst many people consider Goose a 4th line player, they are willing to give up a good 2C for a 3rd line player at best

Paul Gaustad = 0.37 ppg Steve Ott = 0.39 ppg People need to wake up and stop undervaluing our players. Roy for Ott is highway robbery, Roy had a bad season, but he is capable of putting up 70+ points. Please don't forget that. So those offering trades of Roy/Sekera for Ott are out of their minds, it would be like offering Kopitar/Scuderi for Roy.... He might fit out plans, but that doesn't mean you get him irrespective of the cost. Roy is an asset, you don't waste him. The Pens had three amazing centres, that didn't mean they gave Staal away for free - in fact they got a boatload for him.

I wonder why he was not extended an offer :s

He's an RFA

I thought we wanted consistency?

If you watch Win games, it seems that fans think this is a good price and that he stole them a lot of games

Two bottom six forwards might be coming to the Sabres?? I can't wait!!!

I don't quite get all the fuss about Ryan - the guy has only hit the 70 point mark once. Not that i wouldn't want him, just not sure he is worth Stafford/Sekera/1st or Miller for him/Hiller

I wanted us to move up and draft Kane, i hope this is true

Hasek's style is about flexibility and reflexes, both of which drop pretty quickly as you get older. Broduer plays a positional game more than anything, so it is easier to play as he gets older

Read 'Dark Matter' - decent ghost story Now reading 'The Third Man Factor' - so far very interesting

No-one's rights are worth that much. Parise's rights will go for like a 3rd which will be upgraded to a 2nd if he signs. They are not gonna be traded for Malkin and Crosby

I apologise on True Blue's behalf, he was ignorant and foolish for backing up his argument with facts and stats when we were simply dealing with hunches and guesses in this conversation. In other news, i have a stick that tells me where i can find bodies of water....i am pretty impressed with it

I dunno, Brown is leading his playoff team in points, has 4 short handed points, has made a few big checks, has been an unquestioned captain and his team is destroying the top teams in the playoffs. To me, that means they won't want to trade him, thus he will need an incentive.

I think that saying you ahve had to spend time on a players issues implies that they are a problem player, which Roberts is saying is not the CoHo he knows, and whilst true he does only know him away from the team, he also knows him as a person - i doubt Miller is laid back and the life and soul of a party simple because it is the offseason, same is true with Coho and his attitude. He has not replied to the comments because if he disagrees with Gillis, which his high road comment would suggest he does, then all that happens is that it descends into name calling and insults

I have to agree with this, it seems Buffalo fans are a very pessimistic munch. I am happy with the way this team is generally going, disappointed with where they are atm and excited for the draft/FA and most importantly next season. As for Coho, i don't think there is anything wrong with asking for more ice time if you have earnt it. I can understand why is was apprehensive about his playing time. I would rather go to a middle of the road franchise and play a big role in its quest for the cup than play 6 minutes on the top team. Four years is a long time to not get a shot at a top 6 pairing. I also wonder about requesting trades, is it a bit like college confirmations that you can heavily hint that you want one, but coming out and requesting one is pretty much definitive? Anyway, i hope Coho is here for a long time and the reaction the van fans have to him should be taken seriously, just as we rag on Roy for being lazy and presuming he does nothing but party and drink etc. i am sure they do the same about their players - the only difference is that in this case, they like him :P

Our team under performed. Literally everyone did (bar Pominville and Ennis and Foligno, if he counts). I hope Regier knows what to do, as i am not too sure what went wrong, maybe it was the new player lack of chemistry combined with a load of injuries to different players, so the lines had to keep being muddled. I don't really know. As for Roy's contract, it really isn't that bad. He has proven he is can get to 80 points, this season he was bad, but maybe he was out of shape from missing 6 months last year? It is harder to attain fitness than it is to lose or maintain it. I think for those people who say i'd trade him for a hobo's left shoe, then they are poor businessmen. It is quite simple, if you have an asset, you use the asset. You do not throw it away. Most people sell their old cars when they get a new one, the old one is probably a bit ######, but you still don't just burn it do you?

I think that we want to be careful of making huge changes. I think one or two changes upfront (one of which should be Brown :D). I would also like Goose back personally.

The Hobbit is good, LOTR is not - it is so so so boring in parts and they break into song for no ###### reason all the damn time

Detroit fans seem pretty pissed at Franzen, i wouldn't mind taking him off their hands - although he is signed for like a million years

I really really really want Brown. Please make it happen DR :)

I think Suter is in for a big pay day, that will let the team who signs him down - i think he has probably benefitted a lot from pairing with Weber