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Cheaper than many thought, too:
Haven't nailed down the precise terms of Ryan Callahan's #TBLightning extension. Believed to be longer than five years at roughly $5.5M AAV.
(I know that his agent tweeted out that they were working towards a deal, but it seems like it's more than just playing the media. Seems to be happening).
I pray it explodes into shiny fragments, I refuse to watch the team with a team purely made of rubbish and 2 or 3 young gems. I want vet leadership with a bit of skill still........
I'd offer Callahan three options, same goes for Ott and Bolland at somewhat lower prices.
Callahan:
1x10 Offer to give him a boat load of cash and the ability to go to a contender at the deadline. (We can hold 50% of his contract thus making him only 5mil to another team.
2x9 We'll pay you big money now, and ask you for a hometown discount in 2 years when the team is becoming a contender.
6x5.5-6 You're coming here for the long haul and to mentor Girgensons in captainship
Ott:
1x7.8 Give us leadership and grit, and we'll find you a contender again.
2x6.25 We'll pay you big money now, and ask you for a hometown discount afterward
6x4.5-5 Come be our go to grit guy and lead by example
Bolland
1x9 Offer to give him a boat load of cash and the ability to go to a contender at the deadline.
6x5.5 Long term, help us get a cup and provide the youngsters with Cup Rings to oooh and aaah at.
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Bolland isn't much of a hitter but I'd love him for a solid 2nd or 3rd line center.
Interestingly enough, if we were to sign Callahan, Ott, and Bolland we'd have our 3rd line set up for years to come.
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I could see Girgs becoming similar to Messier, maybe not quite as high in the points department but a great leader who never stops.
If he's on the 2nd line, with solid wingers I could see him putting up Derek Roy levels of production. (While he was with Buffalo)
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I still see Patty Kane coming to Buffalo in 2015. :ph34r:
More like 2023
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IMO I don't see any way how you can spin what's in store for this season as entertaining on the whole. Losing is never fun or entertaining to me, but it can be acceptable with an eye towards a brighter future. One more ###### sandwich to force down.
Not trying the season as a whole must be entertaining, but the games individually need to be entertaining. I'm not willing to watch another game that plays like it was under Rolston's tenure. Nolan helps a ton, but we'd still need an Ott/Callahan to give us more than the youngsters to watch.
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Sign Vanek and trade him to NYI for the 5. Hahaha
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The team doesn't need to be entertaining. They need to be whatever they can be that helps the future product on the ice. A leader like Callahan may help, but is he going to give up winning?
Actually they have to be entertaining, seeing as this is a sport which you must pay to see. It is the company's responsibility to entertain us. Additionally the team needs vet leaders at very least, whom work their butts off.
I will concede with your second point
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I don't know if I've soured this much on Ott because I don't think he's really worth the while or because I just don't see him considering us over the other teams who can offer a relevant role on a contender... Probably the latter.
Regardless, at bare minimum we need Ott or Callahan, even if it means a massive contract for 1 or 2 years. The Sabres are supposed to be entertaining, I'm all for tanking but at very least give me some players to watch aside from Girgs and Risto.
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I projected 29-48-5 63pts with us winning every home game against NYI and Toronto
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I think Ott and Callahan will come to Buffalo, at very least we'll get rumors of Moulson to return but he'll end up elsewhere.
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Pretty sure I read somewhere, or heard on WGR, that he had a hand in drafting Robin Lehner...who is 6-5, 220 lbs, drafted in the 2nd round.
Whatever that is worth, maybe not much...I have no clue, just thought it was worth sharing.
*I found this too...which is pretty interesting, lol.
"With that debut at 19 years, two months and 24 days Lehner became the youngest Swedish goaltender to play in the NHL, breaking Jhonas Enroth's record of 21 years, four months and 13 days."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Lehner
If they have gone through all of this garbage in the past 1-2 years, for THIS?!?! I give up. And IF this team DID make the playoffs...you're technically giving up a shot at Connor McDavid, for Shawn Thornton, Patrick Kaleta, 8th place and a first round exit.
I'd probably find the closest bridge and jump off of it...but, then again, that would be typical Buffalo, half-ass something just to get it done.
I'm not all that sure why you're so terrified of that lineup...... who is going to be the big goal scorer? The first line is just what we had between Nolan's arrival and the Deadline, the second line potentially could do well, and beside Stewart no one in the bottom 6 will hit 15 without substantial PP time. I'm all for losing to get to McDavid, but at very least I want a team that's competitive and entertaining to watch.And if they're doing 10th place pace, just trade Stafford and Stewart. If we want the Girgs and Ristos of the team to get better, we have to at very least give them a tad more competitive of a roster, not enough to go to the playoffs, but one that won't be 10 points from the next nearest team with the fewest goals in NHL history.
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I take Reinhart as long as he's there at two, I'd take Ekblad if Reinhart goes #1 unless we can get a King's ransom from Calgary to move down to 4. At 4 I'd pick whosever left between Bennett or Draisaitl. Even with that said however I'd really just like to take Reinhart at 2
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My proposal for the Campbell salary dump would be:
Brian Campbell, the 32nd overall, and a 2nd and Pitt's 3rd rounder in 2015
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the 39th overall (Winn pick) and a 2015 5th rounder.
So we take on salary for moving up 7 slots in the 2nd round along with picking up some picks in 2015.
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still think we'll sign moulson and callahan, but i have a feeling Ott might stay in st louis.
I'll take all 3, Orpik and Shawn Thorton and trade Ehrhoff. That'd be a group of good characters for our many youngsters to learn from.
1 for each offensive line, Ellis captains Rochester and Orpik would bring a vet leader for the D. Get 1 more vet Dman and then fill the roster with whosever left so we can limit the amount of youngsters on this losing franchise. Plus all the forwards would be of use for the next 5 years or so thus helping the transition.
Moulson-Ennis-Stafford
Hodgson-Girgs-Callahan
Ott-Foligno-Stewart
Thorton-Flynn-Kaleta
I can't quite figure out what to do with Stewart or Stafford in the end, we just have so much riffraff that trying to set up a solid group of vets is a tad difficult. The other three players I see future problems with are Hodgson, Foligno, and Kaleta since in the assumption we take Reinhart and "McDavid" I can't fit those 3 + the other two comfortably.
Moulson-McDavid- Girgs?
Ennis-Reinhart-(Stafford/Stewart)
Ott- Hodgson- Callahan
Thorton-Foligno-Flynn
Kaleta
Risto-Zadorov
Myers-Pysyk
McCabe-Weber/Orpik
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Send Ehrhoff to Anaheim with a 2nd rounder for the 10.
Use a 2 and a compliance buyout to acquire a 20s 1st.
Offer Calgary the 10 and 2? for the 4th overall and grab the remaining top 4 guy.
Or just keep 10 and 2? and take Barbashev or Ehlers and Demko unless you think he could fall to our remaining 2nd rounder.
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One thing I wondered was if we could re-acquire Ehrhoff later on and use a regular buyout on him to avoid the huge recapture.
No, a team can't trade a player and then resign them after they're bought out using a compliance buyout.
Are you certain, because I know you can't sign the guy you bought out, but if Buffalo were to buy him out wouldn't we then be the team unable to resign him? Could you send me a link to this info?
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"What is this, Tim? I don't need another piece of computer paper. I'm rich as ######."
"Actually, Terry, that's not a blank piece of computer paper. I printed out a visual representation of how many goals Ville Leino scored this season."
"Man, I ###### up, didn't I Timmy?"
"Yea boss, ya did."
Hahaha. Well done
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I'd buyout Leino with a normal buyout then use our two on other teams screw ups.
I have a question though, if we traded for Hossa from Chicago and bought him out with a compliance buyout, would Chicago be allowed to resign Hossa? If yes, I'd give Stan Bowman a call; Hossa's recapture is worse than Ehrhoffs by the simple fact his contract goes well into his 40's
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Anyone like my idea?
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Ok here's my idea:
Trade our 2nd rounder to Pittsburgh for the 22nd overall and Rob Scuderi(cap dump)
Trade Winnipeg's 2nd rounder and our 3rd rounder to San Jose for the 20th overall and Havlat (cap dump)
Trade Ehrhoff, Buf's 5th rounder, and the Pittsburgh pick to Anaheim for Ottawa's 10th pick, and Anaheim's 24th overall and a conditional 4th that could become as high as a 2nd in the 2015 draft.
That'd give you 2,10, 20, and 24
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I'd never trade Myers in the division, it certainly didn't work for Ottawa when they let Chara go to Boston
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May I ask why is Myers still being shopped by half the forum?
Also, I don't care what Ottawa would give me for Myers (aside Karlsson), I wouldn't trade him within the division and preferably the conference if possible.
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2015 Mock: http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2015/ :thumbsup:
Not only do I love the McDavid pick :) but I love how in this scenario we're back at the podium by #5
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They both could be busts as well...... I can comprehend risking a 12th overall on a questionable player with high potential but not at 2nd overall
2014 Unrestricted Free Agency - Sabres Strategy
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I wouldn't say, they're interchangeable. Quick certainly assisted in boosting the Kings over the Hawks, as did Lunquist over all but LAK. However, I think its a far finer line; as in there are elite goalies, great goalies, and pretty much everyone else. Really only the elite goalies are truly special (the Adrian Petersons of the NHL)but they are still dependent on the rest of their team's skill. An elite goalie and even a great goalie gives a team a safety net of sorts when they have an off night or sustain injuries.
So in essence.....
Great team, elite goalie = A+
Great team, great goalie = A
Great team, average goalie = B
Average/Bad team, elite goalie = B-
Average/Bad team, great goalie = C
Average/Bad team, average goalie = D