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  1. 17 minutes ago, dudacek said:

    He’s my target tomorrow, and I don’t mind throwing term at him because he’s 28 and can play both sides.

    The fact Provorov doesn’t seem to be a big city kinda guy and has a relationship with Jarmo gives me hope that palm trees and taxes can be overcome.

    But we’ll be paying at least $7M AAV and probably closer to $8M.

    Leaves us cap room to flip Byram for a good middle-six forward, preferably one with upside like Voronkov, and makes the Timmins deal make a lot more sense.

    Overall, Byram out, one D and one forward in is what I’m expecting over the next few days.

    I don't think we can make the money work

    Voronkov is an RFA looking for 3 to 5mil

    Provorov at 7.5mil

    10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

    Better yet... 

    trade Byram for Provorov's rights and Voronkov and a 2026 2nd. Make it on the condition Prov signs a 5yr 7mil contract extension. It is less than he would get with UFA but maybe if you get exclusive rights to sign him he feels really wanted and would want to come play with Voronkov and Dahlin. 

    I don't love Provorov tbh. He gets hard minutes and is just okayish at them. He's got a ton of turnover as well but they aren't tracked well. Provorov played 356 minutes with Werenski and was at 52.77% corsi and 51.63%xGF. 

    Ivan played 1178 minutes with everyone else and was 46.38cf% and 44.84xgf% at 5v5. These numbers are very similar to Byram away from Dahlin. 

    Why not just pay Byram 7x5yrs and keep him with Dahlin. He is the same thing with probably more upside. 

     

    The big thing is, we re-sign Byram and our offense is as is; there won't be any fixes because we all know the team isn't going to sign a splash offensive UFA. 

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  2. Just now, dudacek said:

    Sabres get a bit of grace because Tage is on such a friendly deal, but basic cap management dictates their #3D makes about $6M. As the most attractive UFA Gavrikov is going to get more than that.

    Plus Gavrikov to New York seems like the likeliest move in free agency.

    If Provorov wasn't making 6.75mil the past 5 years I'd target him at 6mil

  3. 1 hour ago, Mr. Allen said:

    Why would Vegas do this?  Why not just wait a couple days and get him without having to give Toronto anything?  Will Mitch not sign unless he gets an 8 year deal? 

    My guess would be it could be a masterful manner of tampering legally.

    If you request to trade for a UFA in a sign&trade you can talk to the player. He's said he won't do 8 years now so a trade isn't necessary.

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  4. 2 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

    Here is my issue with the 2 trades the Sabres have made:  they are not the trades that are made by a 79 point team that is committed to making the playoffs after 5 straight years of missing under a GM who is in the last year of a contract (never mind Pegula's larger 14-year Reign of Error).

    Shayna Goldman said something similar on Sabres Live, when explaining why she graded Utah higher than the Sabres in the Peterka deal. It's not that the trade is entirely bad or that the players coming in aren't good, it's that the Sabres need something bigger, something more substantive, something that puts them on the path to being a playoff team this year.  The two trades they have made so far, do address handedness on D (something Adams previously told us he doesn't worry about), and they do make the Sabres bigger and harder to play against (also things that Adams previously seemed unconcerned by). They don't make the Sabres more experienced (by age, games played, playoff history, etc.). On balance, they probably don't make the Sabres more talented as Peterka would currently be considered the best "talent" in the trades.  They do make the Sabres younger and cheaper, and a reasonable concern is that these are the most important factors. 

    Until we see the return on the Byram trade and/or what the Sabres do in free agency or with other trades, these are trades that nibble on the edges of what the Sabres need to do to take a next step. For now, the big picture is that the trades are fine (I guess), but ultimately they are not the big swings that the Sabres need to take.

     

    The Sabres don't swing for the fences; they play small ball. But play a very fine line style of small ball where sac flies are not allowed. Could it work, certainly; but it isn't exactly common.

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    27 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

    Byram, Benson and next years first round pick for Robertson. Who says yes? 

    2026 1st would have to have some protection

    Benson isn't regardless of trade 

     

    You'd be looking at moving Byram for futures than turning those futures and a prospect to get Robertson effectively.

  6. Just now, Thorny said:

    Trading 9 for Rust would be a no brainer imo. It’s an asset we’ve never known and will never miss for a legitimate top 6 player. Can’t we value the moment 

    We don’t need the pick. 

    Well it’d be a dumb trade to move 9 for a 33 year old forward whom is propped up by Crosby. Rakell, sure but Rust is a hard NO

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  7. 6 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

     I'm glad I had the opportunity to experience the trade while visiting family in the 716.   Loving the chance to discuss with friends and family.    I seem to align with a few on the board, including @Archie Lee - I'll need to see what Adams does with the cap space and the decision on Byram and #9OA before I make a final judgment on the offseason.  If this was just a ploy to reduce cap, then Adams is a bigger clown than I imagined.  I'll reserve judgment on the trade itself until Thanksgiving.  

     

    A few quick/random thoughts - 

    • The origin story of JJP's desire to leave will always be tied Adams' failures, the early years.  
    • Doan is not a 4th line player.  41% of his even-strength time last year was on the third line.  He had the greatest success playing alongside 
      LAWSON CROUSE & JACK MCBAIN.  Why would he not have similar results with Benson and McLeod.image.thumb.png.fb327a114a2f46047a4eda994aa89396.png

     

    • JP's production in the top six will be replaced by Kulich.  He's ready to take the next step.  I can see 20+ on the second line. 
    • The team is tougher than it was last week, and still needs MORE
      • Trade out for Mr. Glass, and bring more sandpaper and grit to the Defense.
    • Can Weegar be extracted from Calgary?  
    • Heard a rumor while downtown, enjoying the sounds of Sublime by Badfish:  Terry is considering selling the Sabres.   There is interest from a private equity group.  The source is not a Sabre insider but someone who is in similar social circles.

    No thx on the sale of the team; private equity group would mean Houston Sabres

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