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Did anyone tell them the AS break is over?

Fair point and a reasonable explanation, even if I overall disagree. I think we have reached a logical stopping point for our discussion. Although I did disagree, I am always interested in what other people think. There is a bit of hyperbole in your response and I assume you know that. The correct process, in my mind, is to accept what they are saying as "their truth" and then see if all the facts end up bearing that out. I get that there are subtleties and nuances that are just too hard to type out (not being sarcastic), but I did not think people saying "I don't believe what she is saying is the whole truth" (I took some liberties there to avoid any absolutes) is the same as saying she is telling her truth and you will see what additional facts may say. Some will say that is just semantics. Maybe it is. But, in my mind those are important distinctions. I found it odd that some people defaulted to "well, there is no way that could be the true story" to me, that indicates an implicit bias against the person making the claim. That said, the "that is not how it played out" camp could be right. It is a pretty well known fact that human memories are not infallible and our influenced by the lived experiences of the person doing the remembering. They are not lying necessarily, but remembering it differently. Again, I just think to assume that right from the start is unfair to the person making the complaint.

You may have said exaggeration earlier and I suppose there might be multiple ways to interpret this, but you said: So, yes - you said "don't believe actually happened". I stand by my statement that not believing women when they come forward to report abuse (of any kind) is a problem.

So, your actual defense is that you don't believe the woman who is writing about her experience at all? That is actually worse. No, you are absolutely right ... believing a person's story is the worst thing we can do. The combined IQ-lowering effect of these statements is staggering. I will say I am not accusing either of you of this directly, but these types of attitudes are exactly why women are afraid to come forward with claims of abuse - because they are afraid no one will believe them. Do better.

"she must have done something to deserve [X,Y,Z}" Boo, I say to you! Boo. That is hot garbage.

And yet, from the article - she was not. It is THAT simple.

I don't know why, but I am still shocked at the idiocy of our society. A person that likely possess as skill set comparable to those around them (possibly better, but certainly adequate to participate in the event) is then the target of not only a play that breaks the rules (checking in any adult league in the US is a no-no, no matter what some former HS JV standout tells themselves, so i have no clue why any discussion about female size or toughness is needed), and to top it off is then mocked for their gender (a totally and completely irrelevant and uncontrollable physical trait) and made to feel like they don't belong. BY ADULTS. Then, some a$$hat has the nerve to post it online like "gee, I dunno, I kinda think they brought it on themselves?" If your precious ego and tiny peepee can't handle the remote possibility that woman could be better than you at something, I know all I will ever need to know about you. Gross.

At this point, is there really all that much to lose? I still feel like there is something in the tenacity he sometimes displays that means there could be more to him?

Not directed at you, but I saw the bold and got 'triggered' as the kids say ... I agree we are too young, and it seems like a lot of folks 'round these parts do, too. BUT, if you lurk in pretty much any thread there are far too many "let Girgs/EJ/KO* walk and replace them with [insert 21 yr old barely cutting it ROC guy]" ... which is not going to move the age/experience needle in the correct direction. *Disclaimer: Those three might be the "swap depth for the correct depth" that @dudacek pointed out Van did. But, letting the three oldest guys walk without quality veteran replacements is not going to make anything better.

I can't even read that single paragraph word vomit / AI non-sense. The whole time I picture a small child in front of an audience reading a loud and monotone book report or some other thing. Ick.

Didn't Quinn and JJP have the advantage of having Peca on the coaching staff? I sorta feel like having him coach the Big Club for one day would make a difference, lol.

I would agree and add that when I think of injury prone, it is a player that gets hurt in a situation when a lot of others might not. My knee/leg/ankle almost sympathy broke just watching what happened to Quinn. I think a majority of players end up on IR if they were Quinn right then.

I, too, have had a week by Wednesday. 🍻 And the beer league team I was supposed to sub for tonight said another regular signed in 😥 I have actually seen quite a few witty posts today across various threads and I appreciate them all just a little bit more than perhaps yesterday.

I do tend to over-generalize, so I hope people don't read too much into it, but I also would not blame them if they did.

I am fascinated by SS's general fascination with how players spend their free time and the implication that if they are not shooting pucks 24-7, they are not "serious" about hockey. As someone pointed out in a different thread, these "kids" seem to be pretty tame compared to past generations. Playing X-Box or Playstation or honestly whatever TF they want when it is not time to be on the ice or in the video room ... good for them. One side of SS mouths <ugh, these guys don't have any cohesion as a team> ... team takes a trip together ... Other side of SS mouths <ugh, these guys are on vacation together?> Poor Mitts gets a lot of $hit for hosting parties to try to build esprit de corps ... and I think most folks here would agree that Casey's year-over-year progress is pretty darned good and we'd be happy if other players improved their game the way he has. The USNDP uses certain video games with its players to improve hand-eye coordination and reaction times to certain hockey-like situations. Science! I henceforth call BS on any claims without substantial proof (like, the real kind) of any player now (McJesus? Crobsy?) or past (Mario? Poodle Hair? Mogilny? Patty L?) that did not do something non-hockey related during their spare time. It is not possible, especially in-season. Burn out is real. I await my Red X's

I am wondering if my off-handed comment about not include the Phliers was confusing. I was musing that OK, in one scenario PIT is en fuego and gets in. So en fuengo, in fact, that it would make it likely they took 2nd or 3rd in their division so my scenario was incomplete without mapping out how filly was doing. Filly is not tremendously far ahead of the Sabres and if they collapsed, perhaps they finish 3rd or 4th in the WC behind your Buffalo Sabres! I am not near my trusty speadsheet right now, but I promise to fill in the gap later.

I am confused. Pts %-wise: it looks like this after you swap out TB for TOR: Sabres get more points than Detroit and they are in ... what am I missing? TOR finishes 3rd in the division, gets in. TB get WC 1 and Sabres get WC 2. There is nothing that says one WC from each division, is there? The Atlantic can finish 1, 2, 3 in the WC, no? I mean, all fantasy, but for argument's sake, play along. 🙂

lol - it is definitely not a great picture. I felt bad because I definitely cherry-picked the "low of the lows" for my first "projection", 23 games ago. Both 20 and 25 games ago were higher point % than 23, so yeah - I wonder who we can acquire in a trade using a low-teens 1st round draft pick?

Same thing as before, but with different arbitrary timeframes; extrapolating a team's trend line over the last 10, 20, 25, and 30 games from whatever current game they are at. Buffalo finishes no higher than 3rd and misses out by 20 points in that scenario. It is maybe possible DET pushes TOR into the WC, but I don't think TOR is falling below 52.4%, so yeah. "Last 20" could realistically have PIT pushing PHI out - but again, the Sabres are like 15 points behind still 😞 "Last 30" hurts because magically 30 games ago, the Sabres were somehow 0.500 and are obviously not currently a 0.500 hockey team, so trending down. Anywho - yeah, things are bleak. whomp whomp.

Does anyone currently tearing it up in the NHL have an overrated younger brother we can draft??

PA - I absolutely should have removed that line ... I actually just copy/pasted the whole thing out of the game day thread. Over there it seemed like a generic tongue in cheek playful swat at SS (hell, myself included). I can guarantee it was not directed at you, nor anyone else specifically!

sorry the end of the graph gets all funky - I had to add some numbers to do the project math without using different game totals because I am lazy. Also, since the Sabres are on a TWO GAME WINNING STREAK (!!!) I did not want to cut the graph off at 46 games for the flightless birds.

Moving this from the gameday thread to here. Here is a graph of 8 teams in the East WC picture: The Sabres have been last or tied for last in this group (no BJ's, no Otters) since game 20. Since the Blue&Gold are trending up, I decided to just map every team's progress since game 26 - it looks good for Buffalo until you realize TB and PIT are on fire since then ... Buffalo would go from tied for last to ... drumroll ... 3rd - one spot out of the playoffs. However, at the current paces TB and PIT would run away with the two WC. I am too lazy to go back and add PHI (which, dear peer reviewers, I acknowledge they were a mistake to leave out) and another cuspy team to see where the trends took us. I had not planned to do the trend, but seeing as the Swords were trending up, I gave it a whirl. I took each team's point pace at 26 games and at 49 games (had to fudge numbers for PIT, NJD, and WAS), got a point% increase trend per game over that stretch, projected it out of the remaining 33 games (% total add), new projected point % and translated that into a projected point total. Interesting to see that the Aisles and Ovechkins have been playing like hot garbage for quite some time, while (Crosby, Malks, and Tang), The Pegula Shop Boys, and Ride the Lightnings lead the upward swing (in that order). No idea why that turned into a music reference bit at the end. Anyway - I am sure there are dozens of actual statistical reasons and hundreds of practical reasons why my Excel Fun is not very accurate, but it paints a strange picture compared to the Ol' Doom and Gloom squad around here. Cheers!

Moved my projection comment over to PA's new thread...

I am not sure the tweet's Jost speculation is reasonable in any way...