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Stafford/Sekera is as far as I would go. If they are that desperate in getting rid of Ryan, DR should be lowballing them instead of the other way around. Losing Stafford/Sekera pretty much equals the offensive output you'll get in return with Ryan. Maybe a couple of goals more. But then we also lose a D-man and like has been mentioned we may be losing some in the near future. Including Adam AND a 1st is just insane.

Unless they are in fact considering your Miller/Hiller scenario in their trade and they are still concerned for some reason about his vertigo.

You're right, my bad. I can't believe they couldn't get that on live with all the channels they're broadcasting on. Either way, the swimming really does not interest me at all. To be honest, I'm kinda sick of hearing about Phelps. So many other athletes in so many different sports, this isn't all about him but the media likes to make you think so. Kinda fun watching some of these pther sports. Even badminton.

They did, but I think it was on at 5AM. I think the opening ceremonies weren't that bad. I hope people weren't expecting the 2008 ceremonies to get bested because that wasn't going to happen.

Me too. Modern day free agency makes me sick.

I wouldn't trade Myers PERIOD.

Somebody will end up giving it to him. Sure he's a good fit, but not at that $$. With some contracts due to be up in 2 years for some of our bigger players is it smart to wrap all that money up into an aging forward who MIGHT score 20 goals? He's always been a steady scorer, but far from a sniper. There aren't many you're right. But is he really a top 6 forward? He's no spring chicken, chances are he won't produce like he has in the past.

Doan is not worth $30mil/4 years. Veteran leadership can be had for much less.

That's going to make coming out of the closet even tougher on him.

OMG that sounds disgusting! Just finished off a bowl of Cheez-Its to hold me over til dinner @ Lindburgers, lol.

No

I'll bet Vanek finishes with more points AND goals than Nash this year.

So was I.

That's just ludicrous.

Not exactly sure what he did in the KHL last year. But I thought he was a huge loss when the Panthers didn't re-sign him a couple of years ago. It's not so much that he can or cannot fight, but he will do what Gaustad didn't have the balls to do last year. Great sign IMO.

BUT, Tarnasky is the kind of guy who will stick up for his teammates no matter what happens.

Tarnasky could whoop Jon Scott. He's got that Andrew Peters killer instinct.

Haha, Thank You! :flirt:

The dude is kickass! I suggested the Sabres sign him probably 2 years ago. I guess the archives don't go back that far.

I don't see a problem with it. I'm kinda sick of hearing the saem scripted garbage over and over. He shouldn't have had to apologize. Brett Myers is on Lex & Terry all the time and says whatever is on his mind and nobody says anything.

And Gerbe could crush both of those guys without even blinking an eye. So I'm not sure what the height thing has to do with anything. I don't see how it's a hindrance on his performance. I don't seem to be the one to keep pushing this to the top. :P

I've been keeping an eye on them and Tallon has had a plan for the last 2 years from a complete rebuild. If they struggle it will be this upcoming season but will only get better. But, I don't think they will struggle. He's got a real nice rotation of veteran contracts coinciding with when they plan to bring up there prospects. All those draft picks they had over the last couple of years aren't going to come up all at once, and Tallon's got a nice combination of veterans to help the transition. Should be interesting. I'm glad you remembered my comment about 8th seeded teams. ;) I pride myself on not being a hypocrite. I always try to be fair with my comments; with that said I've been very consistent with my opinion of Miller. If he was treated the way I feel he should be treated I would have no problem with him. I've always given him credit for his consistency from game to game and I've always given him credit for speaking up about what is on his mind.

I knew you'd be back. :angel: I agree with you on this, I'm just hoping DR hasn't made to big a swing towards size and strength whille not having enough offensive talent to balance it out. I don't go by snippets in the news or carefully selected out-of-context quotes. I don't get the BFLO paper. I probably listened to 90% of the post game shows in their entirety last year. 1. He didn't have a choice with Miller's injuries. 2. Ruff wouldn't play his backup more often if Lundquist was backing up Miller. I can't disagree with this. Why doesn't FL ever get any credit? Sure defense equates to GAA and SV%. (Why does that never pertain to Enroth and the fact he rarely got a start with a healthy team in front of him?) But when your forwards are hurt your goaltenders need to step up even more because there is even less scoring going on. You say most of our roster hadn't played together around mid-season. More than 75% of FL's rosters hadn't played together PERIOD to start the year, and then throw in the injurt problems they had, not to mention a rookie coach. Why isn't BFLO considered a defensive team? Lindy tries so hard to force offensive players to develop a two-way game so we are stronger defensively, yet FL never gets credit for having good goaltenders just because of the way they play. They don't use the trap like they used to. This is a completely different team than the last decade. I'm not overexaggerating his streaks. His streaks are generally very long good and bad. I guess that's a positive thing in his direction, unlike Luongo who is hot and cold from night to night and you never know what the hell you're going to get.

It's not so much worrying about two years from now, it's about worrying about Enroth and if he decides to sign because his coach has no plans to even give him a chance to start. If Enroth wants out and then later on so does Miller, then you're really screwed. Which would be really poor timing because it seems most fans thinks DR is planning on being a contender in a couple of years and not being an immediate goaltender. It would be a shame to have all these young guys kicking ass and stepping into the league and all of a sudden you have no goaltenders. I can't answer that. I don't know what they were thinking. Just seems to me like they've gotten more post-season success out of Leighton than any other..... and where is he now? :rolleyes: Fluery has never impressed me much. He's had his moments but again it goes back to my last post. Any goaltender in today's NHL can slump just as easily as streak because of the types of goals that are scored on them. I really think Pitts will find themsleves in a situation where they will be looking for cap space and keeping Fleury might hurt them. It also got FL a lower goals against than BFLO. And they made the playoffs and won the division which is more than BFLO could say. AND they did it with 14 different players on the roster. Making the playoffs and winning the division with a team where more than 75% of your roster didn't even play together the previous year is pretty impressive, goaltending played a big role. They were very consistent which makes it easier to win games. It's much easier to be successful with consistent goaltending than elite (yet inconsistent) goaltending. Oh, it also got FL one game 7 OT goal away from eliminating the eventual Stanley Cup runner ups. ;) Oh, and before the injuries are mentioned, at one point about the same time BFLO had their injuries, FL had 9 guys called up to fill in for theirs. Welcome!! That's all I ask is for the team to stop pretending he is the Golden Boy. If he was treated like an average goaltender, sat for a few games when he gets into a funk, and stop pretending like the world revolves around him then I would be much more accepting.

I agree, and it's been a major point of my OP. Goaltending can make or break a team but in today's NHL where more goals are scored based on lucky breaks, scrums in front of the net, screens, etc..... there is much less difference between an elite goaltender and an average goaltender like there once was even 7-8 years ago. The difference between a $1 mil D-man and a $6 mil D-man is much greater than goaltenders with the same salaries. Seems today any goaltender can go on a hot streak whether he is considered elite or if he is an unknown. I just don't see the reason to spend $6 mil on a goaltender, on a team that is near the cap when anybody can get hot. I think that $$ could be put to better use to improve the team in front of the goaltender instead of putting all your eggs into one 'elite' goaltender when things could go sour real quick if he gets into a slump. All this trade talk to bring in an elite forward, it makes more sense to me to trade the guy who is taking up cap space who could just as easily ruin a season for a team if he gets into a funk instead of trading away already valuable forwards or D-men. But, that's just my opinion.