Kristian

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Much like when he hung on to Max for three seasons too long.

Stafford played last year??

I would expect Leino to switch to wing, so.... WTF am I thinking, I'd rather have Flynn there than Leino..... :flirt:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Flynn came in and played poorly, I'm just saying that with the current prospects "depth chart", we're in trouble if Flynn is still ahead of some of these kids, as it means we're nowhere closer to bringing the them along than last year. If Grigs and Larsson aren't ahead of him on the depth chart, things are going to be painful to watch, I'm afraid.

Exactly, if the team has room for Flynn, it's not a good team. I like his hustle, but at this point we need more than just hustle.

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't have a problem with the current Thomas Vanek being one of said veterans. I guess the question beckons, does he want to be here this season? If not, there goes his presence as a veteran out the window. Only time will tell, I suppose. With regards to Miller, I think it's even more difficult to say - Goalies are usually basket cases, and while I don't think Miller is a whacko like Hasek or Roy, he doesn't exactly strike me as a pillar of strength for youth to lean on either. I think Tallinder should probably count in there, as veteran presence as well. I really would've liked to see Morrow here with Ott, I think that would've been a very good pickup, for some of the youngsters on this team.

You're right, it doesn't. I just have a hard time seeing how replacing half the roster with rookies is going to be a formula for success, without at least some veterans around who do not answer to the names "Drew Stafford" or "Ville Leino". Drafting is one thing, developing is something else. Second point : If you want to split hairs, I said "right about now" :flirt:

That's how you build a contender, according to Darcy. I find it amusing that the media apparently hasn't asked him why it didn't work the first time he tried it, and why we now need to "rebuild", and dump our late-twenties core players, who should be peaking right about now?

But won't he be astonished once the market sets, as usual?

They're still here because everyone knows they'll both be available for a 2nd rounder next march. I'm betting ol' T-Pegs won't be happy with how this fares, as I'm sure he doesn't know enough about hockey to understand why his two stars will end up walking for nothing or next to nothing. I'm sure he's expecting either a decent trade with good players coming in, or he's expecting one or both to sign an extension.

Pro hockey players should be able to connect with 10-15 ft passes, this team can't even manage that.

I'm not disagreeing at all, just had to throw in how dumbfounded I am by how poorly the Sabres pass a puck, and how frustrating it can be for a player of some talent, which I'm sure we agree Stafford is however well he seems to hide it, to deal with consistently poor passing. My own personal opinion though, is that he's lazy and doesn't feel like reaching for it. Whatever the reason might be.

I'm probably one of the most firmly entrenched people you'll ever find in the "Let's Run Drew Stafford Out of Town" camp, but the Sabres simply have to be the worst passing pro hockey team I ever saw. I have *never* in my life seen a pro team, botch so many completely simple passes like the Sabres do. If it were me, I'd be outraged too at some point and stop reaching for one crap pass after another. What we as fans often fail to understand, is that in this league, reaching for a bad pass can put you directly in the crosshairs of any cheapshort artist, wishing to put you in the stands for a few months nursing a concussion. Doubt this is the case with Stafford, just thought I'd throw it in there. You never know.

That's the real tragedy - What 10 years of watching the softest team in the league will do to you.

The Sabres in a nutshell - Nobody wants to come here, but some can be persuaded by obscene amounts of money.

I'm sure Darcy can swing a really nice 2nd rounder for him at the deadline :wallbash:

Direct translation : "Unless you're bringing in at least 2-3 other players, and resign Miller and Vanek, drop dead".

I'm pretty sure you would end up scoring more goals than Stafford :w00t:

That's kind of the problem with the Sabres have right now - Nobody really wants to come and play here, unless : a. They absolutely have to, i.e. nobody else offers them a contract. b. They can make LOTS more money here than elsewhere, i.e. Leino and Ehrhoff.

You mean no scoring, no defense, no special teams, above average goaltending? You're right, he doesn't fit in with that. Wish they change how they build them Sabres, though :flirt:

I think they tried it, and curiously enough liked what they saw. However, several big market teams were not happy at all about it, and their lobbying for a return to clutch & grab was very, very succesful.

Well, since you put it that way.... Just goes to show the "impact" Gerbe has on this team - I'd forgotten he was around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc I realise you're probably not being 100% serious about this, but picking up an ex-sabre well past his prime, at a time of rebuilding would just scream "one step forward, at least five steps backwards" to me. In other words, totally expectable from Darcy Regier.

No disagreement from me there, and my my somewhat sarcastic point was actually that the Sabres shouldn't be worrying about the Nathan Horton's of the league right now, as they have much bigger, and simpler, issues to address.

Yeah, this team doesn't need playoff performers before they start making the playoffs :wallbash: