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On 3/18/2024 at 8:41 PM, Thorny said:
I expect cliches, don’t get me wrong, I’d just rather not hear the worst part of the GM’s schtick, the part most insulting to my fellow fans, regurgitated.
Granato was saying this, pre season:
“2 years ago, we weren't in a position to really go after wins,” Granato said. “We had to grow, we had to gain experience. And we've got it to the point now where these guys, winning should be expected on a nightly basis. Should go into games expecting to win”
Tuch seems to just be offering an excuse. The worst excuse, at that. I don’t expect answers from Tuch. Especially not in this format. I think just avoiding that sort of active insult to our intelligence, which is honestly how I perceive it, would be what I’m after. Again, no answers necessary.
If he sat there and said “goal was playoffs, and we weren’t good enough. Need to be better.” then, for me, that would have been a nothingburger, expected, and fine
hope that clarifies my stance
Alternative interpretation: Tuch is looking for a way to reduce the heat on his teammates. He can’t defend the people who aren’t actually on the team.
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8 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:
I'm questioning heavily Adams decision to "see how it plays out" this season. Clearly change was needed behind the bench, as many of us here on Sabrespace were acutely aware of. Hell, even patient, smart-ass me started a thread to can Granato.
As more and more comments from people within the organization are made publicly, such as Adams "not good enough" and some of the players "we need to be pushed" or "practise was a joke", one thing is becoming abundantly clear, the commitment to winning was not given serious consideration, imho.
We are through the looking glass here people. For myself, I am actually a bit pissed these issues are coming to light. My love for the Sabres, like so many, is life long. To hear these sentiments spoken from inside, ya, I'm f'n pissed it was allowed to fester like this.
Alternate scenario: Team finishes on a tear in 22-23 and falls one short point of being in the playoffs. All the talking heads and fans expect another step forward in 23-24. Seeing the continued good fortunes of the team and the players getting more experience, Adams recommends to Pegula that Granato gets extended. After all, it appears that it is coming together. However, the good fortunes stop at the start of 23-24. By the 20 game mark, maybe Adams is seeing warnings signs? However, the situation was bright just a couple months ago. He is a deliberate guy. Measure twice, cut once.
Game 40 rolls around. Quinn hurt. Samuelsson hurt. Thompson hurt. Does he go to Pegula and say - never mind... fire Granato? Oof. That is a hard conversation. Maybe the convo was had? Maybe Terry wanted/needed to give him the season to straighten it out, since he just renegotiated his contract? Maybe the deal was that they would pivot to a better defensive team and then judge the results? Maybe Adams accepted a deal to change from Granato?
Maybe actual human beings are working through this, without the benefit of hindsight, and it isn't just straight negligence because the fanbase has been perpetually mad?
Life has more nuance than black and white interpretations.
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"Pest" is the only positive attribute that has been used to describe his current game. Everything else is conjecture/wishful thinking.
The only question is whether people are willing to wait to see if there is a pony in the pile of manure. Might take four years to answer that.
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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:
After listening to the bs coming out of everyone's mouths in that locker room, it occurs to me that this guys allllll thought even in late March that they would be able to pull this out and make the playoffs. This "come to jesus" moment didn't even happen until after Granato was fired and Adams told them what they are all now saying.
This team needs some adults. Idc what they say or the lip service at the end of the year, they had months on months to fix this and they got mad at fans and acted like they could just flip a switch and make the playoffs. The more I listen to their comments, the more pissed off at the team and organization I become. Completely out of touch with reality of what they were doing and completely leaderless to stand up and say they weren't good enough until it was too late.
It is ridiculous and pathetic that this team thinks Granato being fired is the "wake up call" when MISSING THE F-ING PLAYOFFS FOR 13 STRAIGHT YEARS!!!!!! is the wake up call.
You don't have to be all-in or all-out. There is a middle ground.
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14 hours ago, inkman said:
I’ve learned the people who earn respect in the work place take personal responsibility or as some would say accountability. Blaming the coach for not being motivated is a cop out and a sign of major mental weakness. Could imagine telling people at work, I’d do a better job if my boss just pushed me more. No one would respect anything you did or said ever again.
So, you have never included yourself in a criticism simply to soften the criticism of your intended target?
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1 hour ago, inkman said:
Not liking how this sounds. How about some self respect for the job you have?
I think you would need to compare this to the other teams in the league. I seriously doubt that this is uncommon.
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3 hours ago, JujuFish said:
Late to the party, but to answer the title: anyone who has told the Saudis to shove it.
Jon Rahm.
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11 minutes ago, Thorny said:
This group of players has such an uphill battle in the field of “likeablity”
Who, specifically, lacks the likeability that you speak of?
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22 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Just read Fariburn's rundown of the candidates and walked away almost certain it's going to be Lindy.
Adams had a plan in place and 4 watchwords: experienced, structured, accountable, immediately available.
Of the candidates he listed: Woodcraft and Evason aren't that experienced, Boudreau and Gallant aren't that structured, Brind'Amour and Quenville (probably, for well-known reasons) aren't immediately available.
That leaves Ruff and Berube.
I don't know of any connection between Kevyn and Berube, or anything to feed the sense that he's a target Kevyn feels he can speak about with the kind of directness and certainty that Kevyn used yesterday.
Lindy, on the other hand, is someone he knows well and has worked together with.
Lindy is also someone who can not only fire up the players, he can fire up a moribund fan base.
He's also won with youngsters and plays the uptempo style Adams prefers.
What has Kevyn preached from day one? Passion for the jersey and for the city, people who want to be here and to win for the people of Buffalo.
Nobody epitomizes the Adams checklist like Lindy Ruff, it's not even close.
It's coming.
I hate you with every bone in my body for this.
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1 hour ago, Flashsabre said:
There is no perfect candidate. Any name brought up can easily be torn down by someone who doesn’t care for them.
Gallant: doesn’t play a structured system. Rangers players asked for a change to a more structured coach. Known as a players coach
Berube: only win a Cup because Bennington stood on his head.
Boudreau: not a hard ass, flames out in the playoffs
Woodcroft: couldn’t get his team to buy in defensively, Knoblouch took over and did
McLellan: has flamed out numerous places. Turned down an opportunity here
Quenneville: not allowed to coach by the league for. obvious reasons
Lindy: NJ was only good because of another coach
Babcock: Yikes
etc etc
going just by Adams words you would think Lindy and Berube would be the coaches of interest.
another name of interest to me is Guy Boucher who has done a great job on the bench with the Leafs, especially the PP.
Everyone today would take Rick Tocchet in a heartbeat. But look at his coaching record before this season. Only made the playoffs once and was ousted in the first round.
It is almost as if the players on the ice is the most important thing in hockey.
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And the greatest coach ever to scream at his players flames out at the end. The flyers end up with 87 points. The greatest coach ever gets three more points out of his team than the worst franchise in all of professional sports. 🙄
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4 minutes ago, Weave said:
I didn’t think it needed to be laid out so plainly to be understood.
Bottom 6 needed grit- didn’t react in time to save the season
Slow starts, arrogance speaks to leadership- didn’t react in time to save the season
Practice quality- did he address with Donnie at all? He said he’s a hands on GM. Where was his leadership? Was he not persuasive enough?
Donnie’s contract extension is whipped cream on top of the pie. Evidence that KA is in over his head and needs a life preserver.
As I tried to explain, this take is timeline dependent. His press conference was a retrospective on the entire season. Your position is that he knew this in real time AND those issues could all be rectified in a matter of weeks - from the moment of recognition to the moment of saving the season.
so what’s the timeline you think would be a realistic between recognition and saving the season?
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5 minutes ago, Weave said:
After reading the accounting here of the press conference, my emotions seem different than most. I’m pissed, frankly.
KA saw what we all saw. Just acknowledged that he knew it was all wrong. Knew the practices were wrong. Knew coming out of camp was wrong. Knew that the bottom 6 wasn’t heavy enough. Knew that the players heads weren’t where they needed to be. And he let it all fester for the whole ***** season.
Hands on GM, my ass. You are complicit. Get the ***** out of here. You are over your head.
So what are you angry about here? The timeline? Don was extended after last season. Clearly they liked what they saw at the end, but that changed over this season. I know the attitudes about everyone changes after every shift, but obviously Adam’s opinion needed time to change. So what are we talking about? January or February versus now?
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16 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:
The bit upthread about Adams' saying that competition starts in practice/training was interesting to me.
We've recently heard about how Sabre practices are light work.
That was the cynical fan take. Occam’s razor suggests that Casey was discussing practicing at altitude in Colorado.
If you go back to the days of Ralph, those practices were considered light and everyone raved about Don‘s emphasis on compete in practice.
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17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Why weren't any of these issues vocalized…
My guess is that he really didn’t put your cell into his contacts.
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This is a super hard decision to narrow it down. So far here’s my process:
First, I downloaded and printed out the all-time Sabres roster. Second step: I crossed off every player that was dead.
Currently, I’m making a list of the greatest Sabres to wear a specific number. That should get the list down to about 80.
After that, I think I’ll head over to hockeyfights.com and then see which Sabre had the best fights out of the jersey list.
that will narrow down the list to about five.
The last step will be the trickiest. Somehow I need to figure out which of these former Sabres are on blood pressure medication. I know it would be a HIPAA violation to ask, but I need to know who is a really angry person. Preferably someone on the verge of perpetual violence. Alternatively, I will accept a video of a former Sabre bag skating his eight-year-old’s hockey team. The more colorful the language the better.
At that point, then you’ll know you’ll have the best hockey coach you could find.
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6 minutes ago, OverPowerYou said:
So this is the what, 6th coach we have been happy to have fired since Lindy Ruff?
Next.
Granato was the 6th longest tenured coach in the NHL.
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2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
Not common sense…more like blind loyalty.
Anger makes a poor companion to level-headed thinking.
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3 minutes ago, ... said:
BTW, props to our man @tom webster who said in a now-closed thread:
"I think those that want change may be happy before Friday."
Dude, would you now share winning lotto numbers?
TW is top shelf. He is a rational guy who doesn't get too high or too low with a great ability to distill information over the long term. He also knows people and so he is worth paying attention to.
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13 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
The teams in Tampa, highly doubt that decision would get leaked now and that it's been made. Adams will do exit interviews first, although I could see assistants getting cut tomorrow.
That's if they actually are proactive which i doubt.
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4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
The teams in Tampa, highly doubt that decision would get leaked now and that it's been made. Adams will do exit interviews first, although I could see assistants getting cut tomorrow.
That's if they actually are proactive which i doubt.
Fires Ralph. Trades Eichel. Trades Sam. Trades Risto. Hires top-notch analytics team (presumably). Trades for Byrum. Trades Casey.
I understand that fans don't think he has done enough, but he has done big things.
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29 minutes ago, ... said:
Adams and Meatballs are quite literally like politicians who will say anything to alter a narrative in the direction they want it to go. They make Darcy and Lindy seem like apostles.
I completely disagree. People may not like what they say, but where have they been deceptive to appease the masses?
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On 4/11/2024 at 10:54 AM, North Buffalo said:
Seems appropriate given Sabres state of affairs.
I am a Scheffler fan.
You are in second place at the quarter pole!
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12 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
Craig Stadler was a hoot. Tom Watson pure class. Greg Norman was the car accident about to happen you couldn't look away from.
This was a huge part of my life as a yout. So many wasted Sundays... Summer watching golf and fall watching the Bills.
I played and could have been pretty good had I applied myself. Shot a 74 once and had an eagle. The story of my life...
How does someone shoot a 74, but hasn’t applied themselves? I don’t see how that’s humanly possible.
Baseless Rumormongering: Reports that Terry Pegula is selling ALL teams other than the Bills
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First of all, that is a tweet from a place called 12ozsports.com. They reference having multiple sources, but none of them are named. There is nothing confirming this anywhere. Not even a hint of it.