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You know what children. You're right, Adams had great processes in place. He's so smart. My bad. See, that's what moving the goalposts looks like. All this bs over a side comment about how funny it all was. Oh cool, didn't know players could just negotiate contracts with themselves. Is that part of the new cba?

By Byram's choice. You said Adams is afraid of arbitration. It wasn't Adams decision to avoid arbitration. It was Byram's and Timmins'.

When was byrams arbitration hearing? Please tell me. So he literally wasn't taken to arbitration. Thank you.

Because...follow me here...Byram CHOSE to sign a deal BEFORE arbitration. Timmins too. It may come as a shock to you, but it's the player's decision. Not the Sabres.

Funny you think electing arbitration is taking a player to arbitration even though they never went and the player signed before it happened. Reading comprehension, get some.

Dude, all you do is toss around assumptions.

Bowen Byram did not go to arbitration. Not my fault you don't understand what words mean Promo.

Funny he never says anything about Bryson. You ASSUME he is. Bryson might not even be on the team this year.

Oh cool, so what did the Arbitration award Byram? When was his arbitration hearing held? Would love to read up on it. You're so full of ***** it hurts.

My pet theory is that the brain trust brainstormed exactly what undervalued player they could find that could be the kind of partner Owen Power needed and somehow arrived at Timmins as the answer. They then decided to pay whatever price was necessary in order to obtain him. It's the same theory I have for the thought process (sub in 4th-line forechecker) that led to the Malenstyn trade.

Go look up what adams said about jbd "I think from our perspective, where his projected salary was going to come out and where we had him slotted in the 8th spot.. just felt like that didn’t make sense with also having Ryan Johnson (and others).. that’s why we made the decision we made.” Kevyn Adams He was literally afraid of being on the hook for an arbitration award higher than he felt while openly admitting he views Bryson higher. Jfc kids, it's bad process and I'm being debated about how bad it is. Wtf are we doing here.

Okay. https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/report-sabres-taking-bowen-byram-to-arbitration The fact they never made it to an arbitrator doesn't negate the fact the Sabres asked for it. Deals signed before are the player's choice.

My neighbor ran a microbrewery in a garage for a few years. It was successful until his brother hijacked the company and built a fancy brewpub that they lost their ass on. I've been meaning to ask if he still owns the recipes because he made some awesome stuff. His Berliner Weisse was A+.

He literally did not. No one went to arbitration.

You're bang on with this. Their actions show they think Timmins is helluvalot better than I do. This is a injury-plagued player who has played 42, 37, 6, 33, 25 and 68 games respectively in each of his 6 pro seasons. He has a history of solid Corsi numbers but doesn't seem to add much in terms of production or physical play. They've chosen to invest 2 years, $4.4M and a 2nd-round draft pick in him. And giving away Clifton was not necessary under the cap in order to make that happen. Their valuation makes no sense to me.

Every cap site had Timmins getting between $2.2-2.7MM but SabresSpace says he's only worth $1.5MM. Who are you going to listen to? That's why he took Byram to arbitration.

Timmins signed pre-arbitration: $4.4MM/2yrs

Adams: Just like the RFAs this season, gotta save that money for next year and Skinner’s increased one-year cap hit. Jarmo: That’s not how the Cap works.

I definitely don't want a fruit bomb. I'm hoping for a Blue Moon level of fruit flavour, only with cherry instead of orange.

No. That 5 million left is right about where Terry wants to be. Unfortunately I think we stay put.

You keep saying this and you are right as long as all your assumptions are right. However, if they don’t share your opinion of the value of JBD, Bryson and Timmins, then none of it is really correlated. You may be right, they may be wrong, but I see no correlation between walking away from JBD because they didn’t want to pay what they thought he might get in arbitration while being willing to pay Timmins close to what he was going to command in arbitration. And for the record, I would have kept JBD over Bryson but I really can’t get worked up about out 7th, 8th or 9th defenseman

This is a bottom 5 team next year and the only joy I'll get from it will be if Terry finally cleans house.

The gm was afraid of arbitration. We know because of his words and actions. That's hilarious because it's a formality in 19 out of 20 cases.

Pretty sure, though, that is his point. Having retained Bernard-Docker even at the risk of him ending up with a Timmons contract (or more likely what we'd've expected Timmons contract to be, not the one coming in at over $2MM/yr) knowing how well he and Power looked at the end of the year rather than bringing Bryson back would've resulted in a better defense at least on paper than what they have now with Bryson as the spare. Because they very likely could've come to an agreement with JBD prior to reaching arbitration.

Now this is goalposts moving. You think the issue is Timmins? No, it's that they let a guy go because "what if he files for arbitration!?" Which was the gms rationale only to sign a guy who immediately filed for arbitration. It's hilarious and bad decision making because as you point out, they all sign anyways.