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And he can’t stay healthy. I can’t believe we are arguing about Josh Norris in 2025 on verge of 15. Cannot believe it not a commentary on you merely the absurd stances the sabres force you to take

I don't need him to pass, I need him to get to 24goals.

Byram is a legit top-pairing defenseman. Why the constant rumors about trying to trade him pretty much since he got here? The defensive issues have been the 2nd and 3rd pairings which have gotten significantly better now, so I'd just keep him and see if we have a solid D with this group.

Norris has the worst primary assist rate among forwards like ever Norris has 2 primary assists his last 105 games played 2 He can’t pass

They only have 8 forwards coming to dev camp... yeesh.

As @PromoTheRobot keeps pointing out, Marner not only is from TO but also has a brand new baby. With the cap going up significantly, and with his baby so young with family nearby should he stay relatively near the shores of Lake Ontario, taking a 2 year overpay deal with a team that he can live 20 minutes away from the rink and only be an hour or so from home MIGHT have some appeal to him. Especially if he holds some bitterness over being the local guy blamed for the playoff failures of his favorite team when the Swedish guy and the Yank from the place that doesn't even have a team anymore are seemingly getting free passes. Wouldn't he like to play against TO 4x per year? Sure the odds of it happening are slim. What were the odds prelottery that the Sabres would pick 9th?

JJ Peterka had 23 secondary assists. He had empty calorie assists, because he played with Tage Thompson most of the year. In fact Peterka had only 4 more primary assists than Zach Benson. What I am getting at is I don't think JJs assists are making up the difference here. There is no massive monday stretching at all. In fact I even showed my work. Josh Norris 1.1g/60, Dylan Cozens 0.9g/60. Further Cozens has eclipsed your goal average exactly 2 times. Once when he had 18 (wow) and then the outlier year where he shot 14.7% which is almost 5% over his career average. You wanna dismiss my arguments that is fine, but you wanna talk monday morning stretching, well you just did the same thing by averaging in a 31g year for a guy who hasn't even made it to 20g since. I used his 11g because that is how many Cozens contributed to Buffalo this past season. Norris has 3 20g seasons and you are right, he gets injured which is an issue. However, I think the shoulder injury which robbed him of his 23yr old season and lingered into his 24yr old season before being corrected is now corrected and I do have some faith he can get 70games in. If he does that, getting 24g (seems pretty low when he had 20 last year in 56 games) is very reasonable. Again, I showed my work so you little dismissive comment is notwithstanding. Cozens verse Norris in assists is something interesting but that wasn't the OG point. It was that regurgitated line "we have to replace 27g from Peterka!" when in reality we probably have to replace 10g and in reality reality we need to drastically reduce goals against.

cool. Cya in 2028

I’d love to put you in the chair, right now Just, as is. Get to work.

As @PromoTheRobot keeps pointing out, Marner not only is from TO but also has a brand new baby. With the cap going up significantly, and with his baby so young with family nearby should he stay relatively near the shores of Lake Ontario, taking a 2 year overpay deal with a team that he can live 20 minutes away from the rink and only be an hour or so from home MIGHT have some appeal to him. Especially if he holds some bitterness over being the local guy blamed for the playoff failures of his favorite team when the Swedish guy and the Yank from the place that doesn't even have a team anymore are seemingly getting free passes. Wouldn't he like to play against TO 4x per year?

The yacht is going to be so polished this year.

I was wrong yes it was 8 years ago and stopped lol. But I see it trying to come back

I hate when people say there is no way, or no chance or they are never coming here... but, no way, no chance they are never coming here... I mean there is a dumb and dumber so you are telling me there is a chance chance... but reality no... year after year we settle for the left overs in FA because the organization is so dysfunctional and has eradicated it brand... in reality, we have trouble even trading for players and getting them to come here because we are so bad... so maybe there is a shocker... but the best I believe we can hope for in FA is a player with upside, looking to prove something that we over pay, or a player looking to restart that was constantly injured or had one great year that they are looking to re kindle... good news is it looks like Lindy is starting to have an effect on the type of player we get... So in the short term I dont think they are looking for the big star... they are looking for the steadier player, with less numbers, better defense that is hard to play against... we may find some of that in FA... Just my opinion.

Pretty sure I stopped talking about it 2 years ago. 😁 That was kinda my point.

Theoretically they could trade with Ottawa to get back their 2nd round pick, but they're not that sophisticated

Byram + _______ ?

You’ve been talking about money puck for 5 years lol It’s not what’s happening Not even when Botterill did it I wish, man, I wish

Probably correct. it's hard to acquire differences makers with a mandated "stay $10million under the cap." Pegula missed that economic 101 class where it takes money to make money.

Did you watch the last month of the season? It's already happened. Yep. Am HOPING they spend the cap space they have and some of the prospects/ next years picks/ rostered players that don't really fit into their plans to make some significant improvements. But will believe they're going to use rather than pocket cap space once it actually happens and no sooner.

Great player but we're not adding another $9million d contract when we have Dahlin and Power priced what they are Agreed 100% - worth a call KEVIN

If Adams can’t convince JJP in his vision for the team how on G-ds green Earth could he convince Marner?

Norris averages 15 goals a season since entering into the league. That would be the best place to start for a projection removed of bias one way or the other. Is the best way to build a team making all your choices based on a collection of scenarios you are hoping for the best case result in or does it make most sense to configure based on the most statistically likely result considering missing playoffs isn’t an option? Cozens has averaged 16.4. Cozens also the better assist producer which of course add to total goals. I’m not sure we can declare the offensive output much more than a wash unless we want to give Norris the added benefit of assumed health rather than going with his actual average. to say Norris not only outproduces Cozens but does so to tune of having a whole bunch extra to replace half the total of Peterka seems egregious, not to mention the fact JJ led our team in assists. There’s some massive Monday stretching going on here the sabres were 23rd in goals 2 seasons ago - that’s just as likely to be reflective of what to expect as last year. We were front runners last year, a lot of those goals were empty calories as Darth expertly laid out. Then you add in loss of Peterka and the fact there’s no cap on goals, our offence looks woefully short

Sabres and crazy spending? You've been following along during the Pegula era , right? as for RFA's. The Sabres would need to target this "First- and Third-Round Picks: If the AAV is between $4,680,077 and $7,020,113, the compensation is a first- and third-round pick." as they don't own their 2nd round pick next year