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Ok I’m done. You cannot admit you errored but the Sabres did add to the management group.

Adams told Terry nobody wanted to eat lunch with him so he hired him a "friend". Lyon was good. Dahlin was good. Rest of the team? Not so much. That should have been a blow out in the first but with Lyon playing well and the Bruins general inability to score goals it stayed a hockey game. I imagine there's a stat somewhere for this but if you counted puck battles and board battles how many did the Sabres win? I'd guess less than 5%. Just pathetic. Team will never win playing that way. Bruins weren't even hitting. Geertson's a joke. Sure, I like a tough guy as much as anyone but he does nothing outside of asking for a dance partner. Doesn't really hit, doesn't really dig or get in front. He's ballast. You have to wonder about the coaching and mindset of this team though. Clear entry on the PP and Thompson shoots from inside the blueline. Who else does that?? The point of any PP is to carry the puck in, set up all 5 and move the puck around for a good shot. That sort of thing is just dumb and they should know better by now. I don't get it. I really don't. Just blatantly bad. You can see the Bruins aren't as good as their record, but you can also see the structure and controlled play, the coaching, and the system with players supporting each other. Sabres? Just a bunch of perimeter possessions and individual play as usual. This team is garbage.

It’s “Byram” And the sabres don’t “have enough scoring” as you claimed all offseason. And things aren’t “a ok” because Norris is merely not a net negative. 0/4 post game ..and still carrying water for Adams. You are wrong nearly as often as the sabres

That’s exactly what I expected from this group. That the Norris injury would demoralize them. Confirming they are the most mentally weak team in Sabres history. Reflection of management. Coaches. And the players. Nice next man up mentality. But in fairness considering the losing they’ve been thru, I’m not mad about it. No one should be talking about blowing it up either. Bc it will be Adams making the trades and that just can’t happen.

I've always argued Cozens was so bad at times, he hurt the team out there with turnovers, being out of position, taking dumb shots because he 'didn't see' the better pass to make with the puck..etc. He was a 'net negative' to the team when he was on the ice, making more negative plays than positive plays. My thought is, a 'replacment level player' (maybe a better choice of words would be an 'average' player who makes an equal number of positive plays as negative plays, even if there aren't many of each) is better than a player who is a net negative, which Cozens is/was. Now, that is the subtraction part. Of course the key is they NEED to replace those minutes with MINIMUM that 'average' player....who may not be as talented as Cozens but doen't make many mistakes. Right now, it doesn't appear they have done that yet. Norris replacing Cozens would be a very good upgrade. But if Norris isn't around, you need a backup plan. An "decent" or "slightly above average veteran journeyman" in my opinion would be better than Cozens. Right now with Norris out, they don't even have that.

No matter how many times it’s pointed out to you that Adams is the one calling the shots and Terry is signing off you aren’t getting it. Adams has done a demonstrably poor job not only roster wise but convincing Terry to spend. The mere idea of keeping Adams reinforces the idea there are no expectations. You are an an island in saying firing/hiring him is irrelevant Staal and Jarmo weren’t hired as managers or assistant managers. I don’t need to let anything go unless it’s the idea you’ll admit to being wrong when you clearly are

You said “”management group”. Look at your post. Your statement is wrong. If Jarmo replaces Adams you would have to admit that Pegula had some type of contingency. Just admit it, or let it go.

Obviously, this is all conjecture, and of the abstract variety, but has it crossed anyone else’s mind that the cup our dear GM won was flat out the best opportunity we ever had to win one and I’m including the 1999 series. I know that we could’ve taken it to game seven and very well may have, but the stars were just a better team. We had the best goalie of all time and a collection of average guys and a ton of grit, but I think the stars win that series 9 out of 10 times. 05-06 was THE year. It was ours and I posted the other day or maybe earlier today about how I am stuck mentally in that year I will never get over that year and that team everything aligned and came together and it was supposed to be ours. So many factors took it away from us so many little things, including Tim Connolly getting head hunted, then all the injuries leading up toward the end of the conference finals. Adams won the cup with the canes. The one that should’ve been ours. This bad juju needs to go and it needs to go now. We were never gonna do anything with a guy who was on the team that took our cup away because for some reason the will of the gods changed on a whim. This guy needs to be gone for that reason alone, but adding the fact that he’s the worst general manager professional sports I think is also another big factor

Jarmo and Staal aren’t even adds to the management group, so your correction of my supposed erroneousness was in fact erroneous. They were added as special advisors

Totally disagree. The whole point of my post is if you fire Adams, unless Pegula changes his mindset you are going to get basically an "Adams clone". The bigger change happens not with Pegula having the same role/mindset but a new GM that he picks. The needed change ONLY happens when Pegula decides to make a change at GM and take a step back (maybe get that PHO as another layer between him and the GM). If you are removing Adams, I do not want that "Adams clone" or someone who is in the current organization with the same mindset. When they make a GM change, they need to do better, and that likely means getting someone Terry won't always feel comfortable or wanted around.

Token hire - Adams didn’t want veteran help I already said - you know what I meant. The manager is still the same

Your info was once true, but now outdated. Adam’s may have not wanted advisors but he got two added this past off season. So, they did add to management, therefore they did NOT roll back the same management team as you erroneously stated.

It’ll only be 10 minutes long because that’s all they’ll be able to get anyone involved with the Sabres to show up for

Didn't Harrington write a really critical article about Pegula a year or two ago also?

For the love of god can we not do the “doesn’t matter if we fire Adams” thing? he deserves to be fired for god awful performance, full stop never mind the fact that he’s not executing Terry’s plan, Terry is signing off on Adams’ half assed one. OF COURSE it might help if we fire him - the very fact Pegula deemed in the scenario that the performance wasn’t good enough would be a welcome sign on and of itself the GM’s job is to present a working solution the the owner and convince them of it - it’s the same for all GMs

They aren't firing Appert. He's the HC in waiting.

Any other sports franchise this experiment would have been over years ago

Maybe an over-reaction from the first 2 games: -Quinn needs to be told he doens't get any more minutes unless he spends the majority of his time in front of the net in the offensive zone. He has turned into a total perimeter player and he has to be broken of that forcefully. -Doan I'd like to see get a bit more ice time and a shot on a top 2 line. Take awy 3-4 minutes from Quinn and give them to Doan. -Without Norris, as soon as Benson is back in the lineup, Benson-Kulich-Tage as a line. -Tuch. Again, only 2 games but I really don't see a reason, or have any desire to give him $10m+ per year as he ages through his middle-to-late 30's. The team can lose just as well with him as without him. -Byrum. all I see in him is a 'somewhat' better version of Bryson. Meaning, nothing special other than he somehow gets a ton of ice time every game without doing much with it. he's not HURTING the team, but I don't see much special.

Don’t know. Whatever he does is probably entry level stuff for now, he is brand new to FO activities. Jarmo was the significant add, he was the successful directing of Scouting with St Louis, and the GM for Columbus for awhile.

I’m exhausted. Between watching and commenting on the lackluster Sabre effort and the negativity on the board tonight, my own included, I will look forward to another chance at our first win on Monday. Goodnight all.

No, the report was that Adams argued for not needing advisors because he felt threatened by them You know what I meant. The key management guys are still the same

My fandom has been reduced to rubbernecking.

Smithers Jr.

Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic is one of the few reporters that have mentioned that Pegula is the problem.

It doesn’t always translate. Gretzky was a bad coach in Arizona.