[OT] Phelps Ties Spitz

[Bmwolf21]

Getting back to the issue at hand....Phelps goes for 8 tonight.

 

Congrats to Michael Phelps - 8 Gold Medals. Spitz hit the nail on the head - EPIC.

 

EDIT: Took the spoiler off the post. If you don't know by now, sorry.

[Corp000085]

Getting back to the issue at hand....Phelps goes for 8 tonight.

 

 

Congrats to Michael Phelps - 8 Gold Medals. Spitz hit the nail on the head - EPIC.

 

 

I'll give the result to something on tape delay... How about that Bolt guy from jamaica winning the 100m? Dude basically stops sprinting, starts waving to the crowd and chest pumps with 25 meters to go... And he still crushes the world record and wins gold. I know less about track and field than i do with gymanstics, and that's saying something folks... But I will say that the guy put on one hell of a performance. Gold shoes to match.

[wonderbread]

amazing, almost got choked up.

[Guest Sloth]

What cracks me up is that kind of condescending bullshitt. You have no idea what other people's schedules look like. I work at a freaking YMCA and don't have the time to work out regularly.

Agreed.

 

A simple 1/2 hour is all you need. You don't have to have a set time to work out, so you can fit it in to your schedule. I teach and I coach cross country, soccer, and track. There are a number of days I don't get home until 11 p.m. My weekends are often tied up w/ the sports. School hours officially have 40 in a week, but I work 60 plus. I also have a wife and child that I spend all of time w/ and I love and cherish every moment of it. W/ all of this going on I stll manage to run at least 5 days a week and each run last for 45 minutes. Again, it cracks me up when people say they don't have time. If you got time to sit on your arss in front of a TV, you have no excuse for not excersising.

 

As for heart beats per minute, it does take more than a brisk walk to get up to a 120. Give it a try. I have to run a 6:30 mile pace to reach 120 beats per minute. 120 plus is considered a cardio workout. Anything less is simply burning a small number of calories. If you care about your health, you need to do the cardio.

[Bmwolf21]

A simple 1/2 hour is all you need. You don't have to have a set time to work out, so you can fit it in to your schedule. I teach and I coach cross country, soccer, and track. There are a number of days I don't get home until 11 p.m. My weekends are often tied up w/ the sports. School hours officially have 40 in a week, but I work 60 plus. I also have a wife and child that I spend all of time w/ and I love and cherish every moment of it. W/ all of this going on I stll manage to run at least 5 days a week and each run last for 45 minutes. Again, it cracks me up when people say they don't have time. If you got time to sit on your arss in front of a TV, you have no excuse for not excersising.

 

As for heart beats per minute, it does take more than a brisk walk to get up to a 120. Give it a try. I have to run a 6:30 mile pace to reach 120 beats per minute. 120 plus is considered a cardio workout. Anything less is simply burning a small number of calories. If you care about your health, you need to do the cardio.

I started writing out a long and nasty response, then realized it's not worth it. I don't have to explain myself to a pompous Internet windbag who decided to hijack a thread after a joke about Phelps' eating habits, and proceeded to essentially bash fat people for not working out enough. You've shown me enough in two posts to prove that it's not worth the time.

 

I'm happy you can find time in your schedule to run 5 times a week. Doesn't mean jackshitt in relation to other people's schedules, but hey, keep telling yourself that "because I can do it, everyone can do it." And by all means keep lecturing random people you don't know on the Internet about their schedules and exercise habits. People always love unsolicited advice and lectures, especially when you don't know us from Adam.

[PASabreFan]

A simple 1/2 hour is all you need. You don't have to have a set time to work out, so you can fit it in to your schedule. I teach and I coach cross country, soccer, and track. There are a number of days I don't get home until 11 p.m. My weekends are often tied up w/ the sports. School hours officially have 40 in a week, but I work 60 plus. I also have a wife and child that I spend all of time w/ and I love and cherish every moment of it. W/ all of this going on I stll manage to run at least 5 days a week and each run last for 45 minutes. Again, it cracks me up when people say they don't have time. If you got time to sit on your arss in front of a TV, you have no excuse for not excersising.

 

As for heart beats per minute, it does take more than a brisk walk to get up to a 120. Give it a try. I have to run a 6:30 mile pace to reach 120 beats per minute. 120 plus is considered a cardio workout. Anything less is simply burning a small number of calories. If you care about your health, you need to do the cardio.

 

You can't generalize about people's hearts. It works for me. I'm not strolling along looking at the flora and fauna. I do, however, refuse to pump my arms and do that weird waddling speed walk deal.

[Bmwolf21]

You can't generalize about people's hearts. It works for me. I'm not strolling along looking at the flora and fauna. I do, however, refuse to pump my arms and do that weird waddling speed walk deal.

I wish people would realize they can't generalize about anything health- and fitness-related. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. What one person is able to do, other might not be able to. I've worked in a YMCA long enough to realize that, and most of the trainers and fitness specialists realize that. It's a big reason why trainers customize a workout to your needs, abilities and restrictions, and don't just hand out the same workout regimen to everyone who walks through the door.

[Guest Sloth]

I started writing out a long and nasty response, then realized it's not worth it. I don't have to explain myself to a pompous Internet windbag who decided to hijack a thread after a joke about Phelps' eating habits, and proceeded to essentially bash fat people for not working out enough. You've shown me enough in two posts to prove that it's not worth the time.

 

I'm happy you can find time in your schedule to run 5 times a week. Doesn't mean jackshitt in relation to other people's schedules, but hey, keep telling yourself that "because I can do it, everyone can do it." And by all means keep lecturing random people you don't know on the Internet about their schedules and exercise habits. People always love unsolicited advice and lectures, especially when you don't know us from Adam.

 

I can sum this up w/ out a "long and nasty response", which you still managed to do. You are over reacting big time. I rarely ever tell people how important excersise is. It got brought up on this board so I stated fact, not opinion. It seems as if you need some type of anger management treatment.

[wonderbread]

I can sum this up w/ out a "long and nasty response", which you still managed to do. You are over reacting big time. I rarely ever tell people how important excersise is. It got brought up on this board so I stated fact, not opinion. It seems as if you need some type of anger management treatment.

 

 

damn, I just got a little choked up again. I told myself I wasn't gonna cry.

 

 

both of you should just hug it out.

[Bmwolf21]

I can sum this up w/ out a "long and nasty response", which you still managed to do. You are over reacting big time. I rarely ever tell people how important excersise is. It got brought up on this board so I stated fact, not opinion. It seems as if you need some type of anger management treatment.

Thanks for more unsolicited advice about anger management. Guess you also find time in your busy schedule to run group therapy sessions, huh? ;)

 

Yeah, I probably overreacted. But I don't know why you even had to bring that up. There were a couple jokes about Phelps' training table regimen and how metabolism changes as you age and you felt the need to start lecturing people about exercising. Maybe you didn't intend it to be, but I know a lot of overweight people who are self-conscious enough without people making comments like that, so it comes across like yet another lecture.

 

(And FWIW, what you posted was not fact, it was your opinion - that just walking 30 minutes a day four [or five - I forget since you changed it in your second post] is enough and would allow you to eat more wings, pizza and beer. In fact I did the math based on that comment, and that was incorrect.)

 

I freely admit I am sensitive about my weight, exercising and weight loss, and for two reasons - first, overweight people are one of the last groups out there that it seems OK to bash for lack of self-control, low-intelligence, etc., and I, and most other people who are overweight, know damn well that we need to work out more and eat less. We don't need unsolicited "advice" from "healthier" people and we sure as hell don't need the condescending attitudes. If/when I have questions about working out/diet I will ask someone. Second - I absolutely resent the generalizations you're making. Just because you find time in your 60-hour schedule to run four-five times a week doesn't mean I can do the same. It's also easier to maintain weight than it is to lose a lot of weight.

 

Part of the reason I get so ticked is there are a lot of Internet "gods" out there who are supposedly 6'4", weigh 220 lbs and are chiseled muscle, who like to paint overweight people with a broad brush of "they're lazy, stupid, have no self-control, etc." and will freely tell everyone when they're on a message board. Yet surprisingly no one says anything to my face when I'm out and about. Ironically, though - when I'm in the gym I usually don't get many unsolicited tips on working out or diet, yet online people find no problem in telling my what my problems are and what I need to do to fix them.

 

I'll stop at this point, because I don't want to continue the hijack and I don't see any reason for us to become enemies. (Truth be told I have my hands full dealing with with PA. ;)) I still respect your opinions on hockey and the Sabres but I think for sanity's sake I should bow out here.

[Guest Sloth]

Thanks for more unsolicited advice about anger management. Guess you also find time in your busy schedule to run group therapy sessions, huh? ;)

 

Yeah, I probably overreacted. But I don't know why you even had to bring that up. There were a couple jokes about Phelps' training table regimen and how metabolism changes as you age and you felt the need to start lecturing people about exercising. Maybe you didn't intend it to be, but I know a lot of overweight people who are self-conscious enough without people making comments like that, so it comes across like yet another lecture.

 

(And FWIW, what you posted was not fact, it was your opinion - that just walking 30 minutes a day four [or five - I forget since you changed it in your second post] is enough and would allow you to eat more wings, pizza and beer. In fact I did the math based on that comment, and that was incorrect.)

 

I freely admit I am sensitive about my weight, exercising and weight loss, and for two reasons - first, overweight people are one of the last groups out there that it seems OK to bash for lack of self-control, low-intelligence, etc., and I, and most other people who are overweight, know damn well that we need to work out more and eat less. We don't need unsolicited "advice" from "healthier" people and we sure as hell don't need the condescending attitudes. If/when I have questions about working out/diet I will ask someone. Second - I absolutely resent the generalizations you're making. Just because you find time in your 60-hour schedule to run four-five times a week doesn't mean I can do the same. It's also easier to maintain weight than it is to lose a lot of weight.

 

Part of the reason I get so ticked is there are a lot of Internet "gods" out there who are supposedly 6'4", weigh 220 lbs and are chiseled muscle, who like to paint overweight people with a broad brush of "they're lazy, stupid, have no self-control, etc." and will freely tell everyone when they're on a message board. Yet surprisingly no one says anything to my face when I'm out and about. Ironically, though - when I'm in the gym I usually don't get many unsolicited tips on working out or diet, yet online people find no problem in telling my what my problems are and what I need to do to fix them.

 

I'll stop at this point, because I don't want to continue the hijack and I don't see any reason for us to become enemies. (Truth be told I have my hands full dealing with with PA. ;)) I still respect your opinions on hockey and the Sabres but I think for sanity's sake I should bow out here.

 

I'm glad this debate has come to an end and we can get back to Sabres talk. I do want to say I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else who is over weight. I apologize if it came out that way. The reason there was change in the number of excersises a week was due to what is recommended, at least four times, and what I do, at least 5 times. I definitely agree w/ you that it is easier to maintain weight. Again, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else. I do feel bad about that and I will take responsibility for what has occured.

 

I do enjoy and respect reading your opinions on the Sabres and many other topics.

 

Go Sabres!

[Bmwolf21]

I'm glad this debate has come to an end and we can get back to Sabres talk. I do want to say I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else who is over weight. I apologize if it came out that way. The reason there was change in the number of excersises a week was due to what is recommended, at least four times, and what I do, at least 5 times. I definitely agree w/ you that it is easier to maintain weight. Again, I wasn't trying to offend you or anyone else. I do feel bad about that and I will take responsibility for what has occured.

 

I do enjoy and respect reading your opinions on the Sabres and many other topics.

 

Go Sabres!

Fair enough, and my apologies for jumping on you. :thumbsup:

[Bmwolf21]

damn, I just got a little choked up again. I told myself I wasn't gonna cry.

both of you should just hug it out.

I couldn't find an "Office" pic, so here's this:

[carpandean]

I was going to read the above, but decided that I'd spend that half-hour exercising instead ...

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, I lied. I read it. My brain does feel like it got a good workout, though. :thumbsup:

[Bmwolf21]

I was going to read the above, but decided that I'd spend that half-hour exercising instead ...

Ok, I lied. I read it. My brain does feel like it got a good workout, though. :thumbsup:

Glad we could help.

 

Sometimes a good old-fashioned donnybrook really livens things up.

 

[PASabreFan]

Fair enough, and my apologies for jumping on you. :thumbsup:

 

How many calories did that burn?

 

I've found that losing weight for me usually involves three things: 1. Slowing down while eating. No inhaling of food. 2. Write down everything I eat and keep a calorie log. 3. Speed up. Take two steps at a time, whatever, just move around life faster, and walk, walk, walk. Park at the far end of the lot. Every step counts.

 

As someone who yo-yos from 170 to 200+, I find that both losing and gaining weight are easy and fun. But I certainly don't want to suggest what works for me should work for anyone else.

 

My thoughts and best wishes to all who are struggling with weight.

[wonderbread]

I couldn't find an "Office" pic, so here's this:

 

 

see I knew goodness would prevail here in Sabreland. Way to go guys put those differences aside and come back to common ground. Speaking of has this offseason seemed twice as long as usual. Not counting "our" offseason but in general. I find myself watching Classic games on NHL network nightly, praying baseball will end and hoping for a puck to drop soon.

[Bmwolf21]

How many calories did that burn?

 

I've found that losing weight for me usually involves three things: 1. Slowing down while eating. No inhaling of food. 2. Write down everything I eat and keep a calorie log. 3. Speed up. Take two steps at a time, whatever, just move around life faster, and walk, walk, walk. Park at the far end of the lot. Every step counts.

 

As someone who yo-yos from 170 to 200+, I find that both losing and gaining weight are easy and fun. But I certainly don't want to suggest what works for me should work for anyone else.

 

My thoughts and best wishes to all who are struggling with weight.

Thanks for the kind words, PA. I haven't seen the 170-200 range since high school and early college, and it is something that, all joking aside, is very difficult to deal with.

 

My biggest problems are, in no particular order:

 

1. Love of bad (read: unhealthy) food. I'm a WNY'er by birth and at heart, and as such I love stuff like wings, pizza, subs, Buffalo fingers, beef on weck, and on and on. I love it and can't get enough. With my schedule being unpredictable and making it difficult to eat healthy food at regular times, I often hit a drive-thru in between assignments or between jobs.

 

2. Jobs that are very sedentary (a lot of time in front of a computer screen) and working longer hours, which leads to

 

3. Decreased physical activity. When I was younger I was one of those "on my bike all day, looking for a game" kind of kids. I played baseball, football, basketball, street hockey - almost anything that was a game and kept me moving. I was rail thin through high school and into college, but once that freshman 15 piled on, it started a downward spiral that I couldn't stop. Now I'm lucky if I get my heart rate up 30 minutes a week, and most of that is chasing Hunter around the house.

 

4. I'm also a big stress eater.

 

Obviously that's a great recipe for weight gain, and it worked to perfection in my case. I've had some limited success with dieting, exercising, etc., but every time I start to do well or think I am getting into a groove, I hit a plateau and get frustrated, or my schedule changes and I can't make it to the gym anymore. Then the weight comes roaring back. :bag:

 

I'm not looking for sympathy or tips or anything like that, nor am I trying to make excuses for why I've struggled with my weight. Maybe by sitting down and writing this out it will help me confront some of these issues and help motivate me a little to try making some changes. I've had some success with Weight Watchers in the past and my brother is doing really well with it now, so I might give that another shot. I'll have to see how this new temp job works with my schedule so I can try to squeeze in some workouts.

 

Now that I'm done baring my soul, when does the frigging puck drop?

[Bmwolf21]

see I knew goodness would prevail here in Sabreland. Way to go guys put those differences aside and come back to common ground. Speaking of has this offseason seemed twice as long as usual. Not counting "our" offseason but in general. I find myself watching Classic games on NHL network nightly, praying baseball will end and hoping for a puck to drop soon.

Baseball is still going on? Since the Tribe was eliminated from playoff contention sometime in May, I have lost interest in the MLB season.

 

Now my work schedule is going to change for the fall, so it's not worth it for me to order Center Ice for at least the first half of the season. Maybe I'll get the 1/2-season package. :wallbash:

[Guest Sloth]

Baseball is still going on? Since the Tribe was eliminated from playoff contention sometime in May, I have lost interest in the MLB season.

 

Now my work schedule is going to change for the fall, so it's not worth it for me to order Center Ice for at least the first half of the season. Maybe I'll get the 1/2-season package. :wallbash:

 

That sucks you won't be getting Center Ice for the first 1/2 of the season. Just out of curisoity, does that make your wife happy? My wife hates my passion for Sabres hockey. If we ever got divorced, never would happen, she'd probably put Sabres hockey for her reason why she wants the divorce! :lol:

 

Just to make sure this came out straight. Wife and I get along great and love eachother very much. :wub: I can't believe I just wrote that on sports message board. :(

[Bmwolf21]

That sucks you won't be getting Center Ice for the first 1/2 of the season. Just out of curisoity, does that make your wife happy? My wife hates my passion for Sabres hockey. If we ever got divorced, never would happen, she'd probably put Sabres hockey for her reason why she wants the divorce! :lol:

 

Just to make sure this came out straight. Wife and I get along great and love eachother very much. :wub: I can't believe I just wrote that on sports message board. :(

She's ecstatic about it. She doesn't want to pay for something that we won't be able to watch, and she doesn't like me monopolizing the TV with Sabres games three-four nights a week.