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  5. After the latest loss, what does accountability look like?

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    45 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

    Agree on most of it. D-men being young, well, when you are basically saying/hoping that Dahline, Power, Samuelsson, and Jokiharju are going to be your top guys, there aren't many minutes left for anyone else.  On the forwards though, you know I agree with that, the issue is, again, if you bring in a vet guy, who's spot does he take the place of?  Plus the key is you need a vet who knows how to play a full game.  Okposo....this was brough up in another thread but he has never been on a team that played a good 200 foot game. As much as he is a veteran leader, I don't think he knows how to play defensively from up front.  When was the last time we had a forward on this team that was somewhat productive with EXPERIENCE on a team that played a good 200 foot game?

     

    Unfortunately, the time for more veterans was last year.  Then the guys coming up would have started to displace them this year.  Granted, that takes away the fun of JJP, but it would have helped overall with Peterka, Quinn, Cozens, Benson, and Krebs.

    JMO.

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  7. Would Anyone Care If Any Current Player Was Traded?

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    55 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

    Say what? Are you a Latvian or something? I don't hate the guy or anything but I cannot fathom this. (Unless it was a joke)

    I have to think hard about the last time I was truly upset about a Sabre being traded away. I think it was Marcus Foligno. Before that the Peca situation/trade was devastating. Way way back Danny Gare. There aren't actually that many times and certainly not many in the recent era where players have disappointed more than become loved. 

    No.  I like the way he plays hockey.  He is a solid 4th liner in this league.

    On a more personal note...

    He came out of the USHL as a scorer and was the top Centre on a horrible tank team.  After he and Larsson got waylaid by Bylsma for trying to lead in training camp instead of one of the big names and getting unceremoniously shunted aside by the coach, they both reinvented themselves as grinders.  Under Housley, they with Okposo became a very good 4th line and regularly tilted the ice in the Sabres favour in spite of historically difficult usage.  Instead of quitting the league, he took pride in doing something else to help the team.  He plays the game with the attitude that you want a player to have.

    I myself was an intellectual ultra-talent who turned down the Ivy League for Case Western Reserve (better monetary deal).  The guys that invented chaos theory, a former head of the EU's version of the CDC in Strasbourg, the top mathematical theorists in neural networks, and 5 Nobel Prize winners considered me to be an intellectual equal.  But I take an anti-depressant, among other things, to stop me from crashing and burning by checking my mental illnesses -- most of which made me that smart.  So I have had to reinvent myself as a grinder and have been grinding for over 30 years after starting 25 years largely getting by on raw talent and only needing grit on occasion.  That is very humbling to do when you are used to being the cream that always rises to the top and then accepting that as your fate.

    Hence, even though I am advocating moving him for the good of the team, I will still root for him.  Same with Okposo.

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  8. After the latest loss, what does accountability look like?

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    IMHO, the problems in the coaching staff are below HCDG.  On the numerous bad days, the forwards in the defencive zone are borderline clueless.  On the far too few good days, this team can beat anyone.  We have griped about the PP ad nauseam.  Both of those are assistants' jobs nowadays.  These two need to be replaced if nobody else is.

    Another problem is the age distribution of the team.  The youngsters just don't have enough older players for guidance on the ice.  5/7 D and 7/14 F are too young to truly be savvy veterans.  And in the forwards, the ice time with many of the youngsters is with other youngsters rather than veterans to show them the ropes.  This needs to be done via UFA or trades.

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  9. Would Anyone Care If Any Current Player Was Traded?

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    1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

    I think some (most?) are missing the subtlety of the question.

    Didn't you ever ponder whether you'd be upset if you never saw a specific friend or family member again? There are family members I would not be upset to never see again.

    What Sabres do you love?

    I would stop short of love but I admire Gus a lot and would care if he were traded without ever seeing success here. Kyle is close to that but hasn't been here long enough.

    I am with you.  I am attached to Girgensons.  I also think that he is one they could reasonably move in a shake-up deal.

  12. A (hopefully) rational discussion on the State of the Sabres - what say you?

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    34 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

    I recall Granto saying the opposite.  Offense was easier to teach to young players and it's more fun to play offensive hockey.  Plus, the young guys on the team had lots of speed and offensive skill.  Thus, he was going to start there, to get them to have some successes in the league, win some games, and build some confidence.  Once that happened, he would shift to defense, to make the team more well-rounded and complete.  I could be wrong, but that's what I recall.

    As for Pegula, I really don't think the style of hockey the team is playing was selected by or heavily influenced by the owner.  And why would they pick Owen Power #1 overall instead of Matty Beniers, if that was the case?  I think that the style of hockey that Pegula prefers is winning hockey.  He just hasn't found the right combination of GM, coach, and players to produce enough of it.  That's not debatable!

    I believe you are correct on Granato wanting the players to have success in the league on offence and then teaching defence.  Many, probably most, rebuilding teams over the years has this pattern.  I point you to the 1972-3 Buffalo Sabres as being one of the most successful ever to use this model.

    I think the lack of mid-career players is being underestimated here and at 1 Seymour H. Knox III Plaza.  For instance, the young defencemen should have older guides to help them learn how to play more effectively.  More experienced forwards could reinforce the lessons on defence for the youngsters.  That does not even count how much more competitive the team would be through injuries.

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  13. A (hopefully) rational discussion on the State of the Sabres - what say you?

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    1 hour ago, SabreFinn said:

    Luck is not something you get, it is something you deserve by working hard. (Write that on the lockerroom wall!).

    Welcome to the board!

    There is an old hockey saw that I would pull out every time that someone belittled Hasek for being "lucky" on some of his most outrageous saves.  "You have to be good to be lucky and lucky to be good.". Good players have habits that make them luckier than lesser players because their leverage is just right, or their shot "has eyes", and so on.

    This team's gawd-awful defencive zone positioning, awareness, play reads, and play in general gives them numerous times to be unlucky every game.  Why are there often multiple Sabres screening the goalies?  Why are players slipping to the side of the net without anyone noticing?  Why don't the defencemen have at least 1 outlet forward all the time?  Why do the opposition routinely get someone open in the slot in our defencive zone?  These gaffes allow the opposition to get more chances to score which are also on average of a higher quality than normal.

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  14. Let's talk about how bad Mattias Samuelsson has been

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    44 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

    In fairness, the players being put on the ice against top opponents are to some extent these guys with the worst stats. As the team is often under attack in those situations those guys are thrown to the wolves so to speak. Dahlin gets put out with the top line and if they generate offense his stats go up. If Johnson Clifton roll out with the third line their stats can go down. There's part of your differential right there.  Who you play against matters and what the forwards do matters even more.

    Trade to Philly no doubt in a year he'd become a top defender for them. Risto's moved up to -0.6 

    maybe, just maybe, stop looking at the players and start looking at the coaches and the lack of a proper team defensive system.

    We have a winner.

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  19. Sabres lines 12/20

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    2 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

    I will be well dead by then...... i think...LOL I freaking hope not. All i want is one damn championship before i die!! LOL 

    Same here.  I plan on living a long time, but not that long.

  21. Sabres lines 12/20

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    2 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

    The way ours has played, he makes the best decisions and plays smart every shift. You are right, he may not be the best but he is top 3!!! Easy. He should not be riding pine because other players are more senior, they are not playing better. 

    Give your username, are you suggesting that the time this ends is 2066?

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  22. Sabres lines 12/20

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    Just now, LGR4GM said:

    The same defense that just got lit on fire by... checking my notes here... hold on one second while they load... the 28th place Columbus Blue Jackets for 9 goals against? We are just going to run it back? 

    Side Eye Reaction GIF by MOODMAN

    That is an awesome gif.

    I can't believe that HCDG is not shaking up the defence pairs.

    Note that when Girgensons returns, probably either Jost or Olofsson needs to go to Rochester unless a trade is made.

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  23. A (hopefully) rational discussion on the State of the Sabres - what say you?

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    As I live in an unfortunately real world, the Sabres need 2 coaches: 1 for the power play and 1 for team defence.  Whomever they have now are not working.  They can reassign the other guys as NHL scouts for all I care.  They really, really need a guy who can teach defencive zone awareness to the forwards in the worst way.  I am sick and tired of the forwards routine screw-ups on everything to do with defencive zone play, including on the backcheck.

    I don't care about how much Jokiharu wants to be with Power; that pair must be split.  Indeed, I would look at moving Jokiharu for a more boring, less offensively gifted veteran RHD to a team that needs someone like him.  Heck, I would consider a pending UFA.

    I think the idea of trading someone popular might really wake these guys up and, although my sentimental side is upset that I will say it, I think a sideways trade of Girgensons to a contender would be a real wake-up call.

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