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Getting Gourde and Tanev without salary retention is a non-starter for me. If they were UFA there is no way in he.. that we'd give Gourde 5+ and 3.5 to Tanev. They aren't worth it. Sending the 11th over pick for them and Larsson is a terrible deal. None are worth that kind of consideration in part or as a group. Why do y'all want declining players nearing the end of their careers anyway when there are UFAs who are just as good if not better and who can be signed for less money? Even in trade there are better options. Alex Kerfoot has one year left at 3.5. He's only 29 and is a better player right now than Gourde is. Why not trade for him? If we are going to throw significant assets at someone, why not Sam Bennett? Here's the good news, Larsson, Tanev and Gourde at have M-NTCs. Hopefully, if KA even offers a trade for these guys, they'll save KA from himself and turn us down.

Certainly could be. Played nearly 20 minutes a night for TB & AZ last season. Larsson is probably a better choice, but I was looking for someone we didn't have to trade assets.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5196088 Thought this might be a low cost in terms of internal assets, but it would give us 4 bona fide centers. It would also improve the PK, add a center that wins draws, allow Lindy to roll 4 lines, give Krebs an opportunity to contribute and elevate the physicality of the entire lineup. Here are the transactions Sign UFAs - Matt Dumba (Physical RHD to play with Power - 3 years 3.125), C Teddy Blueger to man the 4C (3 years 2.75), W Mike Amadio (3 years - 3.25) Trade Joki to Utah for Alex Kerfoot. Re-sign UPL (3 years @ 3.5), Krebs (2 years @ 1.25), Bryson (2 years @ 1.25) Total cap cost about 84 million. So why those 4 players 1) Dumba - Physical RHD who hits, blocks shots, is a vet with playoff experience and as a former top 10 pick can relate to the pressure on Power and Dahlin and unlike Johnson, he has significant tread left on the tire. 2) Kerfoot - playmaking center who is an excellent Pker. Surprisingly physical and is willing to block shots. 3) Amadio - Winger with decent size, a bit of late bloomer with 27 points back top back. Can score. Solid playoff contributor as well 4) Blueger - C who wins draws, hits and has playmaking skills.

What about UFA Matt Dumba? Physical, kills penalties, blocks shots, solid skater with a big shot. Projection is 3 years at 3 mill per season. I am also a interested in trading for Alex Kerfoot and signing Michael Amadio. Kerfoot has one year left at 3.5. (also a M-NTC, but does he want to stay in Utah?). He is a playmaking center who I believe is a pretty solid 2 way player. Utah doesn't need picks (10 2nd rd picks in the next 3 seasons). They need players. They have no D under contract for next season. None!. Joki might be a very solid addition there. Samuelsson as well. No idea what a deal would look like, but maybe Joki for Kerfoot straight up? By the way, Kerfoot was one of the leading PK centers last season in TOI. Amadio is a bit of a late bloomer with a some size at 6'1 204. He's had back to back 27 point seasons and has contributed in the playoffs. I'm not sure LV can afford to keep him with a projected 3 year 3.2 per season deal. I'd also like to make a run at Blueger for 2-3 year deal. He hits, can create, and wins draws. I think he'd be a perfect fit for an elevated 4th line. I'd give him a 2-3 year deal at 2.75 per season. JJP Tnt Tuch Benson Cozens Quinn Skinner Kerfoot Amadio Krebs Blueger Greenway Samuelsson Dahlin Power Dumba Byram Clifton UPL Levi https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5196088

Ok, but at what cost? 2 mill for Tanev and 3.5 for Gourde are all they are worth at this point. Spending nearly 8.7 on them is terrible cap management. We can get currently better players for the same money or less. Bennett for example. He has one year left and no trade protection at $4 mill. I’d rather take on Jeannot at 2.6 vs Tanev at 3.5, but I don’t want either.

I think you're missing the broader point. Acquiring diminishing vet players simply because they are vets is a failing strategy. How did signing Johnson or re-signing Okposo work out? We need to acquire players with tread left on the tire. Larsson ok, but as to the other 2, there are cheaper and better options.

Gourde, age 32, 33 pts last year - contract 5.15 Tanev, age 32, 16 points last year - contact 3.5 Larsson, age 31, 18 points last year - contract 4.0 Gourde and Tanev will add nothing to this team except cap expense at this point in their careers. If Seattle is willing to eat 50% of their contracts, I might be interested. Why does anyone have an interest in two forwards who no longer can play anywhere close to their contract cost. Better current players, and probably younger as well, are available as UFA and for less money. Blueger, had 28 pts last year, is 29 on a 1.9 mill contract. Roslovic had 31 pts (in only 59 game) is 27 and could be signed for 3.5 to 4. I'd rather give a one year prove it deal to Kapanen then trade for Tanev. Larsson I'd take over Joki in a minute for next season. He has something left in the tank.

Because of limited games in Buffalo and his point a game average is well below Gilbert, Patty, and Hawerchuk, who all played more games for the franchise. Eichel also played more games and had more goals, assists and points in a Sabres uniform.

Looking at not only production, but how their teams did, how many games they played for the franchise and with the forwards, I tried to keep eras together. On defense I matched our 3 top offensive D with our 3 best stay at home D. In goal it's Hasek and Miller and then everyone else. Line 1: French Connection Line 2: Andreychuk Patty Mogilny Line 3: Vanek Eichel Pommers Line 4: Ramsay Luce Gare extra: Hawerchuk Hard to find places for Satan and Mike Foligno. I went with Vanek because he scored more goals and Pommers because he is 5th all time in games played by a Sabres forward D1: Ramsey Housley D2: Hajt Dahlin D3: Schoenfeld Bodger extra: Korab, Zhitnik Hasek & Miller in goal.

Doesn't he go back to the draft? Regardless, he may or may not agree to a deal. What's the harm is trying? Jbot was correct when he said that the CHL rules force decisions on many kids before those decisions should be made. The 2 European 7th rd D also let go today are from 2020. One is nearly 22 and the other nearly 23. This is a much better evaluation period. I don't know if Lindgren will amount to anything, but the he has pro wheels and it could be a matter and maturity and physical development to make him a viable prospect.

An AHL deal does not count against the 50 contract limit. The depth doesn't look good for him making the Sabres long-term, but we need organizational depth in the ECHL and AHL. The kid also has NHL caliber wheels, and there is no rush to develop him.

What does it hurt? He is an excellent skater and may just need more time (like Hagel) to develop. Give him an AHL deal, let him go back to juniors and see what happens.

Sign him to an AHL deal

Dominate D man? LOL. Maybe you didn't watch him last season for either the Sabres or Avs. For an offense oriented D, his best season so far is 29 pts. He has averaged under 20 minutes a night for his career so far. These numbers put him in as a 3/4 on a decent to good NHL team. Dahlin is a dominate D. Makar is a dominate D, Fox, etc.... He's not even in Montour's class. Try again. So is a top 4 D, better than a middle 6 center who plays a 200 foot game? Colorado is trying re-sign Mitts as we speak to be their 2C next season. Sorry, but the facts don't support your contention that Byram is better than Mitts. He is younger and has a better draft pedigree, but he isn't there yet and may never be. I think I'd be comfortable with that.

What would a Bennett trade look like? Zadorov, a 4/5 D, was traded early last season to Van for a 3rd & a 5th with most of one year remaining on his deal at 3.75 Conner Brown was traded for a 2nd to Washington after 3 consecutive 35 to 43 pt seasons with one year remaining on his deal at 3.6 Mill.

One of the reasons I'm interested in guys like Roslovic and Monahan is their position flexibility. They can fill a need at 3C or wing and can both play up in case of injury. This would give Adams the flexability to allow the kids to make a run at 3C or 3W without hindering the roster is they don't earn a job. No he's not.

I picked Karlsson despite his NTC because his term and skill seem like a perfect fit. That said, I'm intrigue by trying to get Bennett even for a year. I like the idea of a proven hard nosed center who actually seems to be getting better with age and experience. He'll be playing for a contract extension (or big FA contract) and would be a good fit for how Ruff wants to play. If it works, both sides could agree on the extension, and if it doesn't, he'll bring back a good asset at the deadline for the replacement GM. His one year term, should limit the cost to acquire him as well. I'm not sure I'd give up the 11th overall pick for him, but maybe Rosen and a draft pick would get the job done.

I agree with you, except he will acquire a 3C of some sort. As to Jeannot, I’d rather have Teddy Blueger. Let him C the 4th line and move Krebs to the wing (or trade him for an asset).

You are assuming Cirelli is available and KA is interested. I’m not sure either one is true. As much as I’d like Cirelli on the Sabres, KA’s history is to sign or acquire players with 1-3 years of term on their contracts. The 7 years left on his deal is probably a non-starter for Adams. Add that Kulich, Savoie, Östlund and Wahlberg are on the way within the next 1-3 years, he is going to find a bridge center until one of his guys is ready. Bennett, Karlsson, Roy, Domi and Roslovic seem like more likely targets.

It doesn’t really change anything. We paid a 2nd for 2+ years of a 25-30 pt player in Greenway on a fair contract at 3 mill per season. Why would we pay anything close to that for an 18 pt player on a 2.6 mill contract for a single season?

Jeannot has a M-NTC. I'm sure we are on the list. Also he's had 32 points total over the last 2 seasons. Anything over a 4th rd pick is a mistake. We are not in the business of bailing out TB's mistakes. We make enough of our own.

I'm not sure I follow. Trading Reinhart and the rest of the "old core" was the plan Adams sold Pegula or that Pegula mandated (as we all know that Adams is a yes man). Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, Montour, Staal and Hall were all traded from 3/26/21 to 11/4/21. For them we have net received Tuch, Krebs, Östlund, Levi, Kulich, Rosen, Wahlberg, Kisakov, Marjala, Sardarian, Gustav Karlsson, and Riley Stillman. Now we are in win now mode. Acquiring and possibly extending a 3C like Bennett is what the GM is supposed to do at this stage of the plan. He is supposed to back fill his roster holes with outside talent where there is no internal candidate.

....and if the Sabres are in a playoff position? He'll march into KA's office and ask for an extension. The truth is, if the Sabres are bad again next season, I doubt KA is still the GM when the trade deadline comes around. He has to get it right this off-season and the team must play well from the get go next fall. Bennett is the perfect player for that scenario. He is playing for a new contract. That should be all the incentive he needs to play his best for the Sabres.

Do you know what the Sabres were missing last year Kyle? Real leadership.

Bennett has no trade protection. If traded here, he is coming unless he wants to sit out a year. The one year left on his deal, may or may not be an issue depending on whether or not management thinks one of the prospects is ready to step up in 2025/26. Should they try Benson at center?