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How many of the Pizza makers in Buffalo still age their dough? Anyone know if you get cup and char pepperoni online? I’ve never found it here.

Sour dough isn’t the correct term I agree, but it was the only way that came to mind to describe the “aging” of the dough.

I found the article. What the article said was that some Buffalo makers “ferment” their dough overnight to aid the texture. I remembered where I learned this as well also. Bob Galla, who owned Godfathers in Buffalo, “retired” to Atlanta and opened Galla pizza here told me when he opened his original shop here.

I think this is the best answer and yes he played one game. Joel Armia is also a good answer.

This is from the Athletic, but it’s a really good question. Who is the best NHL player to play only one game for the Sabres? This is not a guy who only played one NHL game in his career, but someone who had a reasonable to lengthy NHL career and for some reason only suited up for the Sabres for a single game. I looked up some candidates and there are some good ones.

I grew up on Santora’s a d Bocce Club pizza. Are they still good or just hit and miss. Also I watched the Buffalo Style recipe video. Doesn’t Buffalo style include a sour-dough crust? Found this interesting article. https://www.visitbuffaloniagara.com/crawl/pizza/

Another problem with these types of models is that always under estimate young teams. The guy mentioned that the “Sabres don’t have a replacement level goalie.” It’s clear that their model doesn’t have a good way to project Levi’s potential who will almost certainly be the Sabres’ starter in the fall. Last year these same models underestimated the improvement in TNT, Mitts and Cozens and ignored the positives of adding JJP and Quinn. Now this year’s version likely underestimates Greenway, Krebs, and the further development of JJP.

Seriously? Quinn had 14 of the 293 goals the team scored last season. Losing Quinn for half the season is disappointing but it’s not exactly a death blow to the offense. The goaltending is potentially scary, except we know the worst case for Comrie and UPL and the Sabres proved last year they can still win with those two in net and Levi is an upgrade on both. Also their job should be easier next season as the upgraded defense helps limit the number of high danger chances against helping all 3 goalies. I believe that additions of Johnson and Clifton might be good for a reduction of at least 20 goals against.

So a team that improved their defense, has a top 3 offense will regress by 7 points.

What he does on the ice and how he acts in the lockerroom are ultimately the only things that matter. Don't forget he is playing for a UFA contract.

https://theathletic.com/4700478/2023/07/19/sabres-trade-candidates-victor-olofsson/ The Atheltic’s list of Sabres who could be traded before the season begins. Not hard to figure out who could be sent packing. Forwards - VO Goalies - UPL or Comrie, with UPL likely having the most value Defense - Joki, Bush, Stillman and Bryson, with Joki having the most trade value and Bryson likely having little or none.

https://theathletic.com/4665592/2023/07/19/nhl-draft-goalie-prospects-ranking/ Levi is the 3rd rated goalie prospect behind Wallstedt and Askarov, but ahead of Wolf. Ratzlaff made HM.

I'm sorry, but I don't give him a pass for those types of errors. Even a quick amount of research into the Sabres show what the organization thinks of Neuchev and Novikov and that Pekar wasn't offered a contract.

No two players are the same and VO has never been on Skinner's level as a player. However, the point still remains. We need to not be so hasty in our judgment of a player capable of scoring 25-30 goals in the NHL. There are only approx 75 players a year who score 25 goals and VO is one of those players. If you look back at some of the Skinner discussions a few years ago, many people thought he was washed up and done. Others wanted us to trade him at any cost. Does anyone want to trade him now? I'm not saying VO will completely overcome his D shortcomings (Skinner hasn't), but if he can become less of a liability while contributing offense, we'll have a good 3rd line depth scoring threat. If he doesn't KA will have to find a way to move on or live with it until Quinn returns.

Leaving Novikov and Neuchev off list while leaving Pekar and Lyckasen on the list makes me question how much effort they put into writing the article. When do we see our prospects forcing their way permanently onto Buffalo’s roster (if ever)? For example: Kulich - He’ll almost certainly spend most of 2023/24 in Rochester, but I see him in the opening night roster in 24/25. I see him taking VO’s roster spot. What about Benson, Savoie, Östlund, Rosen, Neuchev, Wahliberg, Johnson, Strbak, and Novikov? The two defenders, Novikov and Johnson, I think have the clearest road to the NHL. E Johnson, Joki and Lyubuskin are all on one year deals. I think R Johnson makes the team in 24/25. Novikov will probably need to years of AHL experience, but given his 90 games in the K, he could force his way into the conversation for 24/25 as well.

Didn’t we have a thread like this for then 27/28 year old Jeff Skinner? In that thread wasn’t Skinner referenced to as a one dimensional player, who had terrible defensive metrics and his contract was the worst in hockey? Our friend Skinner still isn’t great defensively, but he certainly improved. Any worries about him taking a regular shift in the playoffs? I think VO still has a chance to turn it around. He essentially has a 40 or so game runway to prove to management (and the fans) that he is part of solution (at least for this season). Regardless of how this turns out, I doubt VO is here after this coming season.

This is basically the same roster that potted 293 goals last year. I don’t think “hope” is an issue. Both JJP and Krebs improved over the course of last season and there is no reason to think these guys won’t continue to progress. That said, the youth on the roster is the reason KO and Z were brought back. I do find it funny that the writers, ESpn and the Athletic, are more worried about the 13th forward on a team that scored 293 goals vs being worried about a goaltending trio that has a grand total 95 NHL career starts between them. The presumed starter has the least experience of the trio with 7 late season starts and his backups have career quality save %’s of .422 and .465.

Wheeler's top 50 draftees not in the NHL. https://theathletic.com/4665381/2023/07/18/nhl-top-prospects-rankings-connor-bedard/ 12. Benson 24. Savoie 25. Kulich HM - Östlund and Rosen Biggest quibble is he has Ohgren at 40 despite being outplayed by Östlund on the same team.

Mittelstadt. He'll move into the top 6 and has earned that opportunity. As to the rest, there is every reason to believe they'll improve on last year's numbers. JJP will be another year older and another off-season stronger. The difference between the player who started the year in Buffalo and the player who excelled at Worlds is miles apparent. The World's JJP showed how much confidence he's gained and he should blossom this season. I think a 50 pt season is well within his reach. VO scored 28 goals last season. That's top 6 production for most of the NHL. Krebs should produce more in the expanded role of 3rd line center vs 4th line-checking center he played last year. Greenway is perfectly capable of potting 15g this season. Honestly, I'm not worried about production from players 1-9 at forward and we know what we are going to get from the 4th energy line. Last season the Sabres had 4 30+ goal scorers, VO at 28 and another 5 forwards with 10-15 goals. In addition, Krebs potted 9 in a 4th line role. As to depth beyond the top 12, Murray has 21 games and was re-signed. Management also likes Biro and Rousek has earned his opportunity. If management is unhappy with the depth in camp, decent depth players like Pius Suter, Adam Erne, Nick Ritchie, and Max Comtois are still un-signed. If we have learned anything about KA's development strategy is that he isn't going to actively place roadblocks in front of his young players. If management feels someone is ready, they'll get an opportunity. To me, his status quo approach to the forward group indicates that he feels Rousek, Biro, and possibly others are ready to fill in if injuries strike. Justin Richards (3 NHL games) was also signed this off-season.

On paper, he is the 13th forward as of right now. The situation gets a little complicated if management wants to give Savoie or Benson a tryout. Personally I don't think either is NHL ready, but who knows for sure until we see them play. I also agree that Kulich isn't NHL ready either, but my guess is he will be by mid-season this coming year. The very status quo forward groups in Buffalo and Rochester is an indication to me that management is confident it's forward depth in the system to help out if injuries hit.

That was the Athletic opinion not mine. I was paraphrasing from the article.

Espn’s rating on the Sabres off-season to date. https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/insider/story/_/id/37989724/nhl-team-grades-free-agency-draft-trades-report-cards Why do these writers keep saying we need additional forward depth? Fairburn of the Athletic wrote the same thing. How much more depth are we supposed to have?

https://theathletic.com/4696719/2023/07/17/sabres-roster-projection-depth-free-agency/ Here is their best guess of the opening night roster L1 - Skinner TNT Tuch - Why mess with success? L2 - JJP Cozens Mitts - is this a place for Kulich or Savoie to earn a roster spot? L3 - Greenway Krebs VO - Playmaker Krebs gets a sniper, and VO gets to play with 2 guys who play 200 Feet. L4 - Girgensons Jost KO - Extras - Rousek and possibly Savoie D1 - Samuelsson Dahlin D2 - Power Clifton D3 - Jokiharju Johnson extra: Lyubushkin Out: Stillman and Bryson - They could try to sneak one or both down to Rochester if TP is willing to carry the big salary in Rochester. Joki has the most trade value. Goalies - Levi and UPL - Comrie getting sent down or traded when camp ends. I think this is a logical view of the team as of today. Imho UPL losses the goalie battle to Comrie for the backup job. I also think they'll carry 8 D and the battle will be between Stillman and Clague for that job. I also wonder if Jost goes to the 13th slot and Z moves to 4th line center opening a job for Rousek to play every day. I also wonder if the D pairings might become more fluid in game. For example, with the Sabres nursing a lead late, would Dg try a Johnson Samuelsson pairing to help shutdown an opponents top line?

My family was trying to avoid being murdered by the Czars and their henchmen when that conflict occurred. The truth is Atlanta and Houston are the biggest US markets without an NHL team. Unlike last time, Atlanta will have a deep pocket hockey-focused owner and expansion rules designed to give the team a chance. Also one of the NHL's TV partners is based here in the ATL. Build the right building and team and the Thrashers 2.0 will be a hit. It's also a recognition that Bettman's expansion program will remain Southern-focused. Dallas, Nash, Carolina, TB, and Fla are all doing well. Atl and Houston are the next pieces of that puzzle.

McDavid's next team will be the new Atlanta Thrashers or the new Houston Pilots