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Should've traded him in November

Looks like ammo to me

So Allen is Rodgers?

Huh?

Rodgers was projected to be the top pick. Obviously he wasn't picked there, but he was highly regarded And just because he sat for two years, behind a HoF QB, doesn't mean he needed to. It also doesn't mean Rodgers Sits => HoF, so Allen Sits => Is Rodgers

Dude is a windmill

I don't think reading defenses is his issue. For me, his issue is abysmal footwork

Well there's definitely a problem here Did you show him Eichels stats?

I don't know the RFA deals, but the compensation for that salary range is a 1st and a 3rd. I doubt any team pays that for him http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rfa-draft-choice-compensation-scale/

How else would I measure that gap?

I don't think Crosby or McDavid, or anyone else in recent memory, has even been close to having the distance Gretzky had between himself and his peers

I've said it a few times, McCaron

Conversation happening in the Bills thread. What made Gretzky so dominate? How would he do in today's NHL? Would Crosby be better than him in the 80's NHL? Slow defensemen, bad goalies...what is the difference between today and the NHL of the 80s?

Rosen Mayfield Jackson Darnold Rudolph Allen Trade anything to get Rosen

Friedman on the trade winds https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-surveys-nhl-trade-terrain/

So Gretzky would be putting up 200 point seasons in today's NHL

At least someone does I don't know how you would even prove my claim. It's the same thing as saying pitching is better now than it was in the 1905s, it just is. NHL defensemen today are so much faster

Oh come on. I can't even say someone is wrong on here?

This entire discussion is about context and relativity. In the context of what we were discussing, just because there were less teams in the NHL in the 80s does not mean there was more talent on them than teams today; i.e. 99% of defensemen today are better than those in the 80s I mean it's not a debate. He's wrong

Less teams does not equal better talent. I'd bet AHL teams could give 80s NHL teams a run for their money

Same way you do for Gretzky and Ruth, relative comparisons to their peers Agreed on both

Was wondering what took you so long :lol:

Oven?

Anything we do at QB short of signing Cousins will be a step back. I'm being nitpicky, but with this board's history of tank debates, I think a tank needs to be losing intentionally despite viable alternatives to get better for the following season. I do not think there are any viable alternatives to build off of this playoff success, especially at QB. I think McCaron might actually be the best option we have.