DHawerchuk10
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5 minutes ago, bobs0108 said:
I also loved watching the Bandits play there. I fell in love with Lacrosse watching the Bandits and the Original and better John Tavares. I am so happy that the CT Blackwolfes are a team now 15 minutes from me at the Mohegan Sun Casino.
I had Bandits season tickets in '96. Those games were a blast!
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1 minute ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:
Milt Ellis: http://www.staffannouncer.com/milt/audio/pearsonpenalty.WMA
I announce at my son's game this way. Nobody else knows it, but I do. ?
Ahhh...music to my ears. "Buffalo penalty to number 29 Jeff Parker and Quebec Penalty to number 23 Paul Gillis, EACH Five minutes for fighting...the time 15:29"
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One of the best regular season games I ever saw in the Aud was in '87 against the Oilers on MLK Jr. day. Scotty Arniel won it in OT. I was beside myself with joy. Not only for the rare win that year (especially against the Oilers), but so I could redeem my ticket stub for a free whopper!
I also have very fond memories of wandering the halls during the Sabre carnivals. Oh what a joy that was!
As others have said above, I still can remember the smell of the place, the weird ramps, the bats that were in the trees outside the building, and staircases that you had to repel down to get to your seats in the oranges.
I miss the sounds of whistling instead of booing (why don't we do that anymore?) and Milt Ellis's voice booming across the Aud announcing the winning Perry's Ice Cream thing from the program.
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5 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:
I should have stopped at "money line," but I kept scanning. Look, today is a "clear loss."
Pure rubbish.
I think they gave us like a 10% chance of winning 1 game on the recent road trip.
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3 minutes ago, SwampD said:
I liked him as well. Remember when he scored a goal?
Indeed....against Toronto too! Perhaps Hutton can score a "real" goal at some point (Mika's goal was merely a pass that went astray, and he was last one to touch it). Hutts can really handle that puck well.
On a side note.....although I'm a bit more pessimistic than most of the folks here, I haven't been this pumped for a game in a very long time! I just hope the boys don't burn themselves out within the first few minutes from all the adrenaline.
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9 hours ago, nfreeman said:
One other note about Miller that year: he won a 3-way competition for the starting job in camp with Biron and Mika Noronen, who had a pretty good pedigree and acquitted himself well IIRC. Miller won it out of camp, but he certainly could’ve lost it if he faltered once the season started. He played very well out of the gate though and didn’t look back.
I always felt bad for Mika. Never thought he got a fair shake, and then his career stalled.
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15 hours ago, darksabre said:
They went 7-4 in October. That's pretty good.
That losing streak in November was a little scary, but they pulled it out of the dive.
My memory might be a little off, but I could have sworn we were below 500 at some point within the first month or so. And then right around Thanksgiving...boom. We won like 10 out of 12 or something like that. I think Miller was still out too at the beginning of that turnaround, as I thought Marty won like 5 or 6 straight. Briere and Dumont were out with a sports hernia for a month if I recall. In any event.....
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4 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said:
That is amazing. They guys are good, or at least getting there. They will be scary good when they play a complete 60 minutes and not just 35, or so. Just imagine what there chances of winning will be like then.
This is the hope at least right? Coming from behind like this, and playing one period of good hockey while getting wins is not sustainable. They really haven't played a mostly complete game since the loss against the Rangers ironically.
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1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:
72-73 might be one to consider.
The funny thing about 98-99 was how they scored 3 goals a game on average in the first three rounds before things dried up against the Stars.
The '98-'99 team wasn't THAT bad offensively, especially when comparing them to other teams of that era. Its just how people remember it because Hasek was the best player in the game and shutdown other teams so completely. Didn't Satan have 40 that year?
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24 minutes ago, darksabre said:
It's tough to compare because 05-06 is the only comparable due to the fact that 04-05 never happened. This current team might be what 04-05 would have looked like if 04-05 had happened. The 05-06 team was pretty much good from day one but people remember them being a surprise because they were kinda asleep because of the year off for the lockout.
Not really...they were 500 or slightly below for the first month, then exploded. Most of the pundits were picking them to be near or at the bottom, but all you needed was some awareness of the last played year to know they were not going to be that bad. But I don't think anybody expected them to be as good as they were either.
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5 hours ago, nfreeman said:
But a lousy team looking to sell off a good roster player probably wants picks and/or prospects, innit? And if the Sabres make that kind of trade -- like, say, a low #1 for Panarin or KO, Nylander, Guhle and a low #1 for Kane -- doesn't that make them a contender this season?
I think you're right about this -- I would guess that he is a pretty good leader and is well-respected in the room.
Maybe it's just me, but I haven't liked KO's game for the past few games. Nice assist to Casey last night though, to be sure.
Really?! I think he's been our most consistent player the past few games shift to shift. If Bogosian would stop fumbling D to D passes behind our net, I would compliment him as well.
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29 minutes ago, Doohickie said:
Don't be asinine. In thread after thread we marvel at the fact that the Sabres start slow, and even when the other team scores X goals, it's been goaltending that kept the game within reach.
Correct. Hutton was first star of last nights game going away (save on Kessel was a major turning point). I'm allowing myself to enjoy the moment here, but I'm not that naïve to ignore that for the better part of two periods, we were abhorrent and were totally outplayed by a struggling team. In any event, I think we are getting ahead of ourselves a bit when comparing this team to '05-'06. We are on the right track, and are showing lots of good qualities, but I'm not quite where the other board members are yet with the optimism.
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For Sabre alums it has to be Kaner ......... :ph34r:
The first name that came to mind was Victor Gordiuk.
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Guys.....I'm dru k......but Rasmussen mother ###### Dahlin!!!!!!!! Yayyayyayyayaya
Eric Rasmussen?
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I'm not in favour, but I could see the Canucks moving 7 for Reinhart.
That does seem very plausible doesn't it? I am with you though....would not like that trade unless the team feels Reinhart is a prime contributor to the locker room malaise.
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Perhaps. There's no really good way to check this outside of rewatching games specifically focused on ROR's defense and then watching loads of other players as well to get a barometer on what good defensive play from center is (because otherwise we can endlessly cycle through individual examples of ROR not skating (from you) followed by famous GIFs of Kopitar doing the same (from me) and that's hardly productive)
So I'll stand by my general viewpoint that
1.) NHL players are idealized by all sides, and what is "good defensive play" especially, from both forwards and D, entails a lot more mistakes than is conventionally realized
2.) ROR is phenomenal defensively compared to his peers, based on my raw memory, which I trust by default over someone else's when discussing hard-to-pin issues like this, as I would expect them to do as well.
Tangentially related, I believe that if we trade ROR we HAVE to trade Risto too.
I suppose we have to agree to disagree. I can certainly agree that good defensive play is hard to quantify and tends to be more observational. I always found though, especially with "two-way forwards" , being considered a good defensive forward is more based on group think perception and reputation than hard reality. I personally watch O'Reilly very closely in the defensive zone because I have an interest in positioning, coverages, and the like, but I don't see anything in O'Reilly's game that screams elite when I compare him to other great defensive forwards like Bergeron. And this is not to say I don't think he is responsible or you can't use him in all situations (you can, which is why I really like O'Reilly), just not among the best or really overly special defensively. Where O'Reilly's talents do have a tangible impact in the defensive zone is his faceoff ability.
That being said, I have no desire to see O'Reilly traded unless the Sabres get a monster return.
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Not even a little bit. ROR is closer to Bergeron than he is to Reinhart by a fair amount. Every ounce of underlying stats shows that his production stands to increase as the team gets more talented around him, and even WITH that fact he put up 61 points in the most bizarrely tough usage situation I've ever seen a forward go through. He had more defensive zone starts per game than any player since the stat has been tracked, won more faceoffs than any player in the history of the league, and is ferociously smart and tenacious defensively, while also being our second best offensive player by a large margin. Reinhart's chores on the ice were cake compared to ROR and he still barely crept up to 50 points on the last day of the season.
People get on ROR's contract while forgetting the cap raising. Matthews is about to get 12 million. Kane just got essentially ROR's deal. Johansen is worse than ROR and signed a year ago for 8 mil a year. That contract is perfect now and is going to be a steal in a year. He's got 5 years left, and his game doesn't rely on speed and physicality, it relies on his brain, which means there's a great chance that he's the exact same player 5 years from now when it ends. If we get our head out of our ass and play him as any great coach would, like the 2nd best offensive piece on an offensively starved team, with a dash of Quenneville-creativity to also make use of his defensive abilities, or like Bergeron with a stacked top line, he could easily be a 70 point Selke winner. He is coaching tweaks from winning the Selke. Reinhart is a disaster at center, and a nice cerebral wing who is coming off of a 50 point career-high season.
ROR has more value and it isn't really close. 5 years of guaranteed elite two way play and very good offense from the most important position on the ice has more value than potential, especially low-ceiling potential from a 22 year old in the case of Reinhart.
Methinks you greatly overrate O'Reilly's defensive game. He misses far too many defensive zone assignments for my liking and sometimes lags on the back check (I would concede the guy has his moments, but I thought he was a wreck defensively at the beginning of last season). I think you are seeing the more idealized version of him versus what he actually does.
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The Jets have their guy, the Penguins and Predators have their guy...who's left for Kane? Same as we always thought? Ducks and Canucks?
St. Louis? I would be happy with a return of Dunn and Kyrou quite frankly. Hell, I'd be happy with just Kyrou at this point.
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Hawechuk - 342gms 110g -275a = 385 pts
Drury - 234gms 85g - 104a = 189pts
Briere - 225gms 92g - 138a = 230 pts
Hawerchuk is the no. 3 center on the all time team
Eichel - in another year or two he’ll make this list.
Also Doug Bodger needs to be considered over Cambell and McKee as does Korab
Agree on Hawerchuk (obviously). Where is Zhitnik on this list? Satan is Top 10 in a bunch of categories I think (too lazy to look up the accuracy of that claim right now). No love for late 90's Sabres. I'd take Peca over Briere as well, but that's just my personal flavor, nothing against Danny.
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J Bot understands speed is more than how fast you can skate, speed is how fast you can play, there's a big difference.
I certainly hope so. Three things that absolutely frustrate me to no end when I watch this team is how slowly they seem to process the game (i.e. no quick puck movement/passing, no consistent sense of anticipation), how they have zero gap control, and how they always try to play the puck instead of the man in front of the net.
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@NicholsOnHockeyLeBrun: "I've spoken to a couple of teams that covet Evander Kane, that intend on making a play for him, and that would like to have him. None of them intend to include a first-round pick in their offer." #Sabres 1050We gon' get f-u-c-k-e-d
I think the key word here is "intend". I'm sure Nashville didn't "intend" on giving up a 1st rounder for Paul Gaustad either. GMs be crazy at the deadline.
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11's reporting on ROR is quite interesting, and jibes with the theory that the Sabres will need to unload at least one of ROR, Reino and KO in order to get faster.
Trading ROR would also open up significant cap space for taking a shot at Tavares, a good defenseman or some other piece, and would presumably help rebuild the prospects pipeline.
He's a good player, but I'm fine with moving him.
Call me crazy, but that might be at the root of wanting to unload O'Reilly from a management strategy perspective. My wishful thinking and personal bias at least hope that is the case.
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Though Meehan was still technically the GM in Muckler's 1st 2 seasons w/ the Sabres, Muckler was the Director of Hockey Operations (in addition to his coaching duties) and was defacto GM by the summer that saw the Sabres bring in Hasek.
Meehan's last big splash was Lafontaine.
Saying that Meehan was responsible for bringing in Hasek is akin to saying Beauregard was traded for Hasek; it's technically correct but not reflective of what actually happened.
Yeah, I recall it was kind of a fuzzy situation back then on who was pulling the strings. The years are all starting to blend together too, which isn't helping. It sucks to get old.
Ah, yes, the old Beauregard/Ruuttu switcheroo. Funny thing was, I have zero recollection of that being a three-way deal with the Jets. So when it was reported years later that we traded Beauregard, I was totally lost.
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He did NOT trade for Hasek.
The moron known as Muckler traded for him & left him exposed in the next expansion draft AND traded a truckload for Fuhr AFTER he had Hasek. Had Fuhr not screwed up his knee, he probably would've traded away the best goalie of all time for a used puck bag & 2 broken sticks. (But in fairness, the puck bag would've had a LOT of pucks & the broken sticks would've both been lefties. A lot of power'd gone into breaking both. ;) )
Actually, I think Meehan traded for Hasek, and also traded for Fuhr. Muckler took over GM duties the following year, did he not?
Pilut recalled from ROC
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Concur. He's having a whale of a season.