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DHawerchuk10

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  1. I think you're spot-on, and I think you can generalize this to most good-but-not-great players. I think we as fans tend to evaluate players in terms of what we want them to be rather than what they are, which can lead us to emphasize weaknesses and overlook strengths.

    To add to your point, it also depends on how much, we as fans, have invested into that particular player. If you jumped on the Tyler Myers bandwagon from the start, and are a charter member of his fan club, generally speaking, you are going to see him through rose colored glasses thus jading your opinion. I was a charter member of the Thomas Vanek excuse makers club, so I am fully aware of this phenomenon. Oddly enough, when you hear people refuse to recognize glaring faults in a player and defend them to the bitter end, it makes the opposing side dislike that particular player even more.

  2. Really wanted to win after Boston's D-bag announcer opened with a rant about how awful the Sabres are. A bad team is one with talent that plays bush league hockey (Boston). The Sabres have little talent and have shown they can work together and be competitive.

    I don't mind Edwards' "homerism" as much as his lack of hockey knowledge. He reminds me of a fan who wants to come off as smart, so he just parrots what he hears from other media outlets without doing any thinking or observing on his own. Edwards is directly responsible for having me go from Center Ice to Game Center. Every time the Sabres played the Bruins on Center Ice, they would always carry the NESN feed. Enough was enough, so I purchased an Apple TV with Game Center to pick my feed.

  3. You know what always melts my brain? We think of so many things in terms of "what are they contained by". And then I think about how the universe might not be contained by anything. That one could conceivably go on forever never reaching a terminus. How does something exist that isn't bounded by....anything?

    Yeah, I am blown away by that notion as well. To consider we are potentially part of a multi-verse, and my brain starts oozing out of my ears.

     

    I did a little series work in Discrete and Calc 2 with Maclaurin and Power series (loved power series actually, easiest one to identify and solve imo). Still, I'd rather stay away from working with series if I could.

     

     

    This is what absolutely confounds me: There has to be intelligent life elsewhere right? I'ts mathematically impossible for there not to. Yet at the same time, it's also impossible/extremely improbable that none of that life exists within our galaxy, and isn't far enough ahead of us to have discovered ways of communication. Couple things I've read on the subject include humans may be the most advanced ( :death: ), another species may have conquered all of the others in our galaxy and we're next, or there

    is some sort of threshold/test every planet must pass until we are contacted with and we either failed or are not there yet. If the last one's the case I'd have to imagine we haven't met it yet because we really haven't done too much in space.

     

     

    Thank you. No religion, no politics.

    If you are ever fortunate (or unfortunate) to take a class in signal analysis, that is when the real fun starts. Younger folks seem a little more adept at this sort of thing than when I attended school, but this was definitely a weed out class at UB way back when. The average grade was around a 23, and the professor only applied a minor curve (i.e. everything below a 50 was an F). The final exam looked like it was something found on the ship from Roswell.

  4. You can start by telling me what differential equations is :lol:

     

    I only have to take Physics 1 & 2, both calc based. I love the insane discoveries and theories that come with physics, but I could never get interested enough in it to take it up as a major. The lectures are just too boring IMPO. I'm almost done with a math minor for programming, but I don't think I ever have to take differential equations.

    Be grateful you don't. Power Series will make your head explode. In all seriousness, Diff Eq is pretty easy if you have to take it. If you took Physics at UB, it is a complete waste of time. Nothing but deriving equations, and absurd problems (i.e. the magical "frictionless surface"). Hopefully they breathed life into that curriculum since I went there, because teaching just theory without practical context is a sure fire way to turn off people's brains.

  5. I disagree completely with the Mike Wilson comparison. I don't think it is a fair one at all. Myers is a top 4 d man on any team in this league. Buffalo tried to force Wilson into a top 4 role, but he was never that guy. Myers is way more mobile than Wilson, and has actually demonstrated way more offensive ability as well. Is Myers a disappointment after the promise of his rookie year? Hell yeah. But he's nowhere near Mike Wilson level bad.

     

    I think a fairer comparison from the same era would be Richard Smehlik. We all wanted him to be more dominating defensively and physically. Heaven knows he had the size and ability to be. Like Smehlik, it seems like Myers game, both offensively and defensively, could be better than what he's shown. But also like Smehlik, he's a legit decent D man on any team.

     

    Now, the question is, what is a guy with Schmelik-like value and skill worth to a team like Detroit or Anaheim?

    well, I disagree with your disagreement. Smehlik is Myers' upside in my opinion. He was exactly like Mike Wilson the past couple years (outside of an occasional burst, he fell a lot, and got beat on the outside). Hopefully this year he'll progress past that. Disagreement aside, I'm just excited you drew a comparison and gave a thoughtful opinion outside of the typical "he's a good skater", "he has size", "he won the Calder and has potential".

  6. We've been through this. Again, I suggest that an "elite" player should lift up his teammates and should win the battles against the other team's best. All teams have "first pair" defensemen who play in all situations and go up against the opponent's best every night. All of these 20-30 minute d-men at various times throughout the game are paired with different forward lines from their own team. The top teams have guys who win the best-on-best battles with the other team's best. The top teams have d-men who are able to generate offense (e.g., break out of the zone, start the rush) regardless of which forward line they're on the ice with. I watch Shea Weber regularly down here in Nashville and he performs regardless of whom he is paired with, regardless of which forwards he is going up against (it is always the league's best), and regardless of which Preds forward line is on the ice.

     

    ... my high-level suggestion is when a team is really bad over an extended period of time, sometimes the big minute players are simply not as good as the other team's big minute players. I agree with everyone that one reason Myers gets huge minutes is his teammates are terrible. But, I should see him dominate once in a while if he truly is a special player and I just don't see it. For example, he leads the team in power play minutes but has no points. I think what some see as "great play" by Myers is average play by other team's standards and the reference point is lowered because our other defensemen are so terrible (and yes, I know most here disagree with me).

    I agree with you totally. I am totally baffled why people think Myers is anything special. I will admit he has been solid so far this year, which is a huge departure from how he started other seasons. But I haven't seen him do anything spectacular. Nobody ever seems to respond, but I am genuinely curious what people think his upside is. Nobody ever wants to hear this, but he draws serious comparisons to Mike Wilson, another large defenseman from years gone by. Myers has more offensive ability than Wilson, but on the defensive side, I see no difference. Neither of them utilize(d) their size properly. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, what is the point of having a 6'8 defenseman who isn't intimidating? The guy doesn't have to fight everyone in sight or throw huge checks every shift, but he could skate with a carton of eggs out there without breaking any right now. So to me, his size doesn't mean anything. His skating ability is really nothing to write home about either. "Skates well for a big man" is an under-handed compliment. It equates to...."Wow, I would expect you to fall over every two seconds, so the fact you show some dexterity is amazing".
  7. 1999. Even without the injuries, its difficult to say whether we would have beaten the Canes. I think people assumed that based on the hope generated from the Ottawa series. Based on legitimate hope, I would vote for 2006, but I don't agree we would have walked through the Canes or Oilers. That is a false assumption that gets worse over time.

  8. Actually I would argue that most people think it was Ruuttu for Hasek.

     

    I suppose it depends on what circles you run. This lost me a bet once, and everybody looked at me like I was a crazy person for even suggesting Ruuttu was traded for Hasek.

     

    A few years ago. Montreal acquired Scott Gomez from the NY Rangers and in that deal the Rangers that included D Ryan McDonagh who could be a perennial Norris candidate for the foreseeable future.

    What a TERRIBLE move by the Habs

     

    Yeah, this ranks pretty high with me as well...definitely top 10, especially seeing that McDonagh is developing into an all-star.

  9. It's much more effective when you put the FOX News spin on it:

     

    "Some people are wondering if Thomas Vanek was on the take when he sat out the series against the Bruins. Could he have faked an injury? Some people may think so."

     

    Or put the MSNBC spin on it.....

     

    "Vanek faked an injury during the Bruin series because George Bush told him to."

  10. I know I'm repeating myself here, but I really believe the last-season-in-Nassau factor will be significant. The atmosphere in the building will range between dead and hostile, with plenty of support most nights for the opponents. I think you're looking at a good 10%-20% point reduction based on that factor alone (relative to how they would do in a normal home arena).

     

    The atmosphere you describe in Nassau Coliseum is exactly the same as it has been or the past 10 years. I don't see how it could get any worse (hostile might be an upgrade over the total indifference I normally see there). If anything, it may get better depending on how many nostalgic Islander fans out there.

  11. To grade the draft, I took my model, www.limedata.us/blog/40.php, and selected what it thought was the top 50 or so players, then see who got those players. This is really rough, no goaltenders, it does a bad job on weird leagues, I never got defensemen scaled right, but according to the model, the better teams, generally, picked better players

     

    Team Picks Total Score

    TBL 4 1500

    LAK 4 1000

    STL 2 1000

    NYI 2 1000

    TOR 2 1000

    CGY 1 1000

    BUF 1 1000

    FLA 3 900

    DET 3 900

    EDM 1 900

    PHI 3 700

    VAN 2 700

    AZ 2 700

    NSH 3 600

     

    Most everyone else got 1 of the top 50 or so, some, like New Jersey got zero.

     

    The model loves Barbashev, but Tampa Bay traded down instead of taking him, which gives me pause, since Tampa Bay knows this stuff. Barbashev will be my most watched player from this draft.

     

    Tim Murray arrived in town with the second overall pick, 3 seconds, and the ability to take dead money from other teams, and left town farther away from Tampa in talent then he was before. I believe I am the first off the Tim Murray bus.

     

    I have a feeling that teams were scared away by Barbashev's offensive "upside". If you read the write up on him, he sounds exactly like the kind of guy I would want on my team...so you have to wonder what teams were thinking. I personally would have preferred Barbashev as well, from reading about him, but since I have never seen him play, I have to trust that Tim and the staff know what they are talking about.

  12. Sorry for all the new thread haters but everyone is discussing this in 3 different threads. Lets consolidate it.

     

    Rumor is Detroit wants Tyler Myers. The price is unknown. Now I have openly argued that Tyler Myers is maxed out for the most part. He will be a 30-40pt a year defender and is a 3/4 guy. His physical talent does not match his mental limitations.

     

    Now some have argued against this with some good points including his improvement last year. No one wants to see him shipped off and then turn into a star. That would make us look like crap.

     

    So where do you see Myers going forward? Does the Detroit rumor interest you at all and if so what would it take to get Myers? Do you think his value is low? Do you want Myers on this team for another year or 3 or 6? What in your mind is Tyler Myers potential from here on out? I have stated mine, now it is your turn.

     

    If a mod has the free time combining the other discussions on this would be helpful.

    I hear what you are saying, and that is hard to argue, but quite frankly, I am not concerned about Tyler Myers the moment he is off our team. I am only concerned about the guy or guys we have coming back. If he does well, and our guys do well...then great! Losing trades is always tough to swallow, but these are risks that have to be taken sometimes, and you can't be afraid to take said risks for fear of that player doing well in the future.

  13. The confident Myers is a completely different animal from the tentative Myers. The tentative Myers is terrible. It's hard to imagine a player with as much size and skill being so bad as to be the worst player on the ice. The confident Myers is very, very good and could get a lot better.

     

    The instant Nolan got hold of Myers he became a lot different than the Rolston Myers. He wasn't instantly great or even very good but there was a noticeable and substantial change. After awhile, it was almost exclusively the confident Myers. Coaching really can make a huge difference in certain players, other players are entirely self-motivated.

     

    To me, we cannot trade Myers right now unless it was an outrageous deal. Nolan really can bring out the confident Myers on a consistent basis. If he gets to the point that he plays an entire season as the confident Myers, it could propel him to the player most of us have imagined. He was clearly our best player for some stretches. It's a shame he got hurt. We have to see if Nolan can keep his head right this coming season.

     

    The confident Myers is merely a capable defenseman. The only reason why he looks so good when he is playing with confidence, is because of how awful he was prior to that.

  14. I am happy to trade any guy if the price is right.

     

    However, Myers price is high. I think he breaks out next season. He is still a young guy and has been maturing whilst asked to shoulder the workload with Ehrhoff. He will do well this season - if we trade him i bet we end up kicking ourselves

     

    But you see, that is the thing. It is always "he is going to break out next year", and then the excuses come out when it doesn't happen. When is enough, enough? There is no reason to believe he will be much better this year than last. He certainly had his moments under Nolan, but I wasn't impressed enough to revamp my opinion of him. It seems there is a contingent out there (and this isn't directed at you personally) that are just so willing to delude themselves with Myers. When he plays well, the "look, he is a superstar!" starts coming out in spades...while the sub-par games are quickly swept under the rug. Its almost like they have their own personal money invested in Myers and can't accept a loss on that investment.

  15. You didn't like Housley?

     

    Do you also dislike ice cream? Fireworks? Beautiful women?

     

    I think the bigger question is, you liked Housley? And strong enough to compare it to ice cream, fireworks and hot women? I would like to see what you consider a beautiful woman then :) Probably Phil Housley.

  16. Again, do not believe he has the Mental ability to process the NHL at game speeds and since other teams now know his physical weaknessess he can not use his brain to counter act and overcome his shortcomings. I like Myers, he is one of my favorite current Sabres, unfortunately he is a 3/4 guy on a team with 4 other top 4 defenders in the pipeline.

     

    If Myers was 6'3" 220lbs we would think of him as a 3/4 guy with decent upside but not that consistent ability to be amazing. Since he is 6'8" he gets compared to chara and all this other bs and he is the player he is.

     

    Right on! His size, and expectations therein, just doesn't mesh with his style. I flat out don't like Tyler Myers (least favorite Sabre since Phil Housley), so my projection of him is somewhat colored, but I don't understand what folks see as his potential. They say he has a high ceiling, but what is that? Even during his heralded rookie year, he showed indications that his offensive abilities might outweigh his defensive awareness, but people dismissed it because of his age, and "it could only get better". I think Myers will improve on his shortcomings, but never to reach elite status, nor a #1 defenseman. I have no qualms dealing him to another team if it can net us an upgrade at forward. We can't be afraid of that "one good season" he might have if we let him go. Lets face it, the kid isn't that young anymore by NHL standards....you are seeing pretty much what you are going to get aside from slight improvements here and there.

  17. Right. The league is making a huge system change based on a very rare event (the complete and total intentional drive to finish last). That's insane. Systems should be changed to address chronic problems...what the Sabres are doing isn't chronic. And to top it all off, this can very well have a real impact on league parity. Just dumb.

     

    With that said, I can't remember who it was who originally suggested this (CV or tom webster, I believe) but all this is is a bunch of GMs from mediocre teams want a better shot at a generational talent. This whole "anti-tanking" rhetoric is a transparent farce.

     

    What irritates me about this is, that there are clearly markets free agents don't want to go to...whether it be misperceptions of the area, contender status, or whatever. A team like the NY Rangers will never have an issue attracting free agents, while teams like Buffalo, Columbus, Winnipeg will always have some sort of issue. The draft process helped level this out to a certain extent. If small markets are underperforming while this is rolled out (and they are), you can create a situation where teams just stay bad and have no way of improving.

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