Crusader1969

Dahlin vs Boqvist https://futureconsiderations.ca/versus-adam-boqvist-rasmus-dahlin/

Or let them all keep winning in Rochester.

so you are saying, you won't be watching?

I agree, lets get him traded as soon as possible. Try to get him re-signed but if you can't, lets get a deal done and move on. Elliotte Friedman speculated that the Lightning, Kings and Blue Jackets could be interested in him.

I definitely got my time frame wrong, i shouldn't try to predict so far into the future but I still believe next year is the year we see them turn it around. What I couldn't have predicted is that Murray would trade away so many draft picks that certainly has impacted their depth. Though, I won't say the trades were bad trades. We now just need to improve the depth and add some more talent - it will come. . I also don't believe in culture of losing. The leafs have been losers forever but hire the right coach and a talented deep lineup changed that quick. I'm also hoping for a bottom of the league finish this year, since the playoffs are out of the question. If you don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, why are you still here? I'm still very optimistic about the Sabres future and I'm happy to wait 1 more season. If they don't improve next year when all the guys in Rochester are ready to move up, (plus Mittelstadt) then I'll gladly say I was wrong. And yes I still believe we will see the best decade in Sabres history and Eichel (thanks to the Tank) will be the main piece that gets us there.

This is completely wrong. 2014 his first draft was a terrible draft pool, have a look at the guys drafted in the 2nd round and later and who did he miss on? Remember he wanted to trade all 3 2nd rounders to move up? He knew there weren't NHL players available past round 1. POint and Arvidsson are the only 2 guys drafted past the Rd 1 that have had any sort of impact in the NHL It's too early to grade the 2015 & 2016 drafts though it looks good with Guhle, Pu, Asplund looking like sure fire NHLers drafted after round 1. It's the 2008 to 2011 drafts that are the killers.

You can be good- even really good - but if you want to win the cup you better have at least a couple of top 3 to 5 picks. At least that's what 8 of the last 9 cup winners have shown us. Penguins - Crosby & Malkin BLackhawks - Kane & Toews KIngs - Doughty & Schenn (whom they traded along with Simmons to get Richards & Carter)

I just went to Nashville last weekend to see them play vs the Avalanche.. What a difference in atmosphere from seeing a game in Buffalo. If you can get to a game, you will not only see a much better team but its an experience you won't find anywhere else. Well worth the trip.

you win with talent,they lack in talent. You get talent in the draft. Next year is the turn around. Its never been about this year since the day Botterill was hired. So yes, winning a few games may make you feel good but in the long term its putting you further behind

yes, absolutely last place is what we need. I think it is very doable as well, the Coyotes have been much better now that Raanta is back and soon they will get Chychrun back from injury. Not to mention Strome is tearing up the AHL and could be called up to bolster their Forwards. who else should we worry about being worse than the Sabres? I don't think there is another competitor for last place. Remember when winning a few games at the end of the 2016 season seemed positive to some people? but 2 extra wins ended up costing us Laine? there will be so much turnover this season to next that winning doesnt really matter, however adding talent is what it is all about. StahlinForDahlin! and yes I know its unlikely that they get Dahlin (even if they come last) but Svechnikov, Zadina and Boqvist would all be huge pieces to getting this team towards being competitive. Coming in last would guarantee at least 1 of these players.

I don't think there is a line-up that he can put out there that is good enough to compete night in and night out. There are only 6 forwards that have more than 2 goals all season! Before last night, had the 4th line scored a goal all season? the depth is beyond bad. 6 players account for over 80% of their goals this season. The D combined has 0 goals and 22 Assists on the season. Morgan Reilly for the Leafs has 17 points alone. If you look at the Team that Housley came from the Preds top 3 Dmen (Subban, Josi and Ekholm) have 14goals and 30A. They have been missing Ryan Ellis all season! Until the D gets sorted and their is depth on this roster, there is nothing Housley can do. why is the depth bad? not 1 player drafted by the Sabres from the 2008 to 2011 (guys who should be filling out the lineup in the prime of career) is on the current roster. In that time frame 21 guys were drafted in the 3rd round or later and only Bradon McNabb and Marcus Foligno have had NHL careers. Compare that again to the Preds- 2008 Roman Josi 2nd round, 2009 Ryan Ellis Rd 1, Craig Smith round 4, Elkholm Rd 4, 2010 Bitetto 6th rd, 2011 Salomaki. not to mention in 2014, when they drafted Arvidsson in the 4th round. not to exonerate GMTM, but its not the Tank, its not the trades that have sunk the Sabres, its the drafting from 2008 through 2011 that has kept this team from being competitive. Its going to be a long long season. Let us pray for Dahlin!

I wouldn't get too exited by Dahlin's potential. I've heard that ALL Sabres prospects looked like that when they played in Juniors...

1000% yes! It's the road to winning a cup! You need to have at least 2 elite players - and the only place to get them is the top of the draft Also, it's way too early to say if it's a success or not. You need to wait for Guhle, Nylander, Mittelstadt and maybe the 2018 draft pick (if top 5) to be full timof NHLers to,say yes or no.

For sure, even if you project him as a high end pp qb and 6dman, ala Butcher, he would be worth a flyer in the 20s I've seen him ranked top 10 and I wonder if they are only looking at stats

Important contract extension signed tonight by Atkinson https://www.jacketscannon.com/2017/11/16/16668686/cam-atkinson-signs-contract-extension 7 years $40.25 mill. $5.75 per season Atkinson and Kane are same age but Cam had a big year last year but other years the numbers are similar. Would you offer the same to Kane? The avg salary seems fine to me and the Sabres should be able to afford it even if worst case scenario they have to buy out Moulson (rather than trade him). Term kinda scares me - would love to go 5 years but would you have to go to $7mill per?

Clifford continues his hot streak. 4 points tonight for Pu in game vs Guelph. I watched the game mainly to watch Merkley - I am definitely not a fan. Real sloppy in his own end and takes too many risks for me liking. He will be a great PP qb for someone just not the Sabres unless he drops out of Rd 1

Guys that break our hearts. To be fair - CJ Smith, Casey Nelson and Chad Ruhwedel were all guys that multiple teams wanted to sign. Wasn't ERod one too? Can't remember.

I would also think The Knights would be wary of signing Kane long term in the city of Las Vegas!

Craigslist is out today: http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-dahlin-dominating-one-canadian-in-top-10-1.915356 1) Dahlin - compares to McDavid and Matthew. I read one scout say that he would be the 1st pick in the draft even if he was a Forward. 2) Boqvist 3) Svechnikov 4) Tkachuk 5) Zadina 6) Wilde - this is an exciting gain (moving from 20 something to 6th) He is a player I've been watching since the start of the season. More conventional size at 6'2 than the other potential top 10 picks (Boqvist, Smith, Hughes,) Merkley) outside of Dahlin 7) Hughes 8) Kupuri 9) Hayton 10) Wahlstrom Can't see the Sabres picking outside top 10 at the moment so need need to go further.

you win some you lose some I guess. Man, we coulda used him in the pipeline though. going have to get a list of the top NCAA Free Agents coming this summer (drafted and undrafted). I can find a few undrafted but would love to see potential drafted UFA's. think there should be a thread?

I read today that he could play tomorrow night for the Amerks.

I was looking at LV Salarry cap last night, wondering if Kane would tempt them. I doubt they would move Theodore as they have Sbisa, Stoner, McNabb and Engelland as UFA's at the end of this season. I was thinking more along the lines of Brannstrom and a draft pick. Either way, I doubt they are our trading partner for Kane, However, I do like the idea of brining in Clarkson for Moulson . Then we can stash Clarkson on LTIR. It may be a bit slimy but if the Leafs can do that type of thing, why cant the Sabres? for LV, they get a player who maybe could play on their PP and add veteran leadership. I believe he is in the NHL right now.

I agree with all of you - not a full out "Tank" but a "subtle" one. If you aren't going all out to win, isn't that at least a subtle tank? - a tank that Toronto could be proud of. I also agree that developing prospects is the right way to go. Id keep all the prospects in the AHL for the entire year, let them win. Only call up here and there to fill for injuries. I think to get guys to come to the Sabres, we have to over pay. Lessons should be learnt that these contracts very rarely work out. Exactly why I am leaning towards trading Kane.

I feel pretty confident that they know that Moulson isn't a part of it but there he is...11gp 0g 0a I agree it's not a full out Tank but they aren't going all out to win either.

Would you agree that the Sabres aren't fielding the best team that they could at the moment? Keeping Moulson around may not be a full out Tank but it sure smells a bit like one.