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Dahlin would likely be a Top 3 D in the league on a better roster, like he literally looked like last year. I get it, you pretty much hate everyone and that’s your opinion.

Dahlin, Power, Cozens, and Thompson come to mind

Well he’s one of very few players in his category that might actually be available for reasonable terms to acquire and/or isn’t a headcase. There is a very small number of intermediate options that can bring everything we need while not breaking the cap or asset pool. For instance, even if Brady Tkachuk were available I’d not consider him since they’d be asking for Cozens and Power and/or our 1st while wanting to dump Korpisalo’s contract on us. Plus Brady seems a tad crazy and quite literally demanded the captaincy according to some reports. Pat Maroon would be great if he weren’t ancient at this point. Same as Hornquist when Florida may have wanted to dump his salary a couple years ago. Players that can both play, be large and actually like being physical while not having glaring flaws are few and far between. That’s why many here like Boone Jenner, he’s a very good player who fills those roles and with a new coach; perhaps the combination can get Cozens back on his ole work horse ways and convince Tage to play angry more often.

There’s a difference between subtle and overt responses. I’d like to avoid another Eichel or ROR trade in magnitude where we are just praying a piece takes it off the most one sided deals articles that are prevalent in the off-season or anytime the player is mentioned.

We are in agreement. Vancouver is certainly in a position to take a risk while Calgary is divesting from a player they weren’t going to be able to resign. After all he supposedly turned down 7/8 x 8/9mil

I'm sick of Buffalo being the butt of all the jokes; its more akin to city pride than my own personal feelings. I'm tired of always having my city shamed over every little thing while the media will more or less ignore unless we suck whereas they can make fun of us again. If we trade Joker for a better fit, so be it. Marginal differences are as it says marginal. But I'm truly hesitant to give up on a Cozens or Power in order to get a lesser player who could theoretically be a better fit but achieve nowhere near the performance of Power or Cozens and get to hear about it until they retire.

Because you can't win doing the 1st all the time either. Not to mention Buffalo fans get to deal with more BS from opposing fans about how we gave away a star for some guy. I'm tired of that, I want to screw some other team for a change and not always be the one being screwed.

Thompson's a center and plays better as a center so he isn't moving to the wing.

Would you offer Savoie for Jenner straight up? I'd honestly be on the fence if there is reason to believe Jenner could continue his role and production for 2.3 years. He fits the mold of a vet leader who plays physically, has leadership, and isn't a detriment defensively. I have high hopes for Savoie but he's yet another small skill guy and Östlund has shown a bit more range in his style (defensive capabilities and the like) while Kulich just strikes me as a natural goal scorer.

If Lindholm doesn't go back to being a solid defensive center like he had been prior to this season; its not a good trade for Vancouver barring a long playoff run seeing as they won't be able to sign him regardless. Trading all that for about 30 games of a player and then "losing in the 1st round" isn't what I would deem an effective trade at the end of the day. If he helps them win a Cup no cost is too great. Anything in-between is up for debate. As for Kuzmenko, he was a bad fit with Tocchet's style and thus expendable. That being said, if he scores 50 next season and after a disappointing playoff exit, Vancouver outright loses Lindholm; I highly doubt Vancouver's fans will be like, " Well we got to play 6 games in the playoffs so I'm overjoyed....." This is also how you also turn into a long term farm team if your trades seem to always benefit the opposing team. I, and likely Adams, don't want yet another traded player to go have a career year and win the Cup for some other team while we wade in the kiddie pool regardless. You don't necessarily have to achieve total victory in a trade; barring it being a in-division trade. All you need mutual rising of ships or ideally a bit more on your side; but you can't just go around losing trades for the sake of a change.

With how Lindholm has looked as of late, that's a very risky move for Vancouver. Lindholm will need to bounce back. Calgary gets the better end of this one in my opinion, they get a 1st as well as a player in Kuzmenko who put up 39 goals last year. As well as some other dudes.

Moving a team doesn’t help give the owners club a boost of money and a new market. Arizona has Bettman keeping it safe and the NHL would be nuts to move the Sabres with our positive TV numbers and proximity to Toronto.

I'm curious as to how much Boone Jenner would cost and if he'd be worth overpaying. He's only got 18 pts in 34 games this year which is the main hold up.

Honestly I think he’s tried to move Olofsson for 2 years to no avail. I honestly don’t think anyone ever offered much to the point he chose to just eat it versus trade him far below his original ask and thus show weakness to other GMs. Okposo and Girgs are great people and I’d offer Okposo a front office job but as players they both very limited and Okposo scares me when he gets into shoving matches due to his injury history. From my brief interactions I’ve had with Okposo I’d say he’s a legitimately great guy. Girgs is a great event killer but his offense has deteriorated every year since his rookie season. Probably, I’ve never been an aggressive person in regards to decision making or risk taking. But honestly, I don’t exactly see a good move in the Top 9. I see far more risks than potential rewards. If you stripped Skinner’s NMC he’d be my likeliest choice to move to find a different type of player. Otherwise you’re just looking for a better Greenway to push him down a line. Id love to say I’m not gun shy but Buffalo teams have a tendency of getting burned badly by any trade with actual value involved. Regardless of how we do, the other side always seems to get the better result. The Bills literally traded the picks in which Mahomes and Justin Jefferson were taken who are arguably the best at their respective positions. We got Tre White, Allen and Diggs out of it but somehow we still lost somehow. The Sabres got Alex Tuch, a guy who bleeds blue and gold in the Eichel trade and has been better than expected; however Eichel suddenly decided to play defense and won a Cup. Reinhart’s trade got us our best future goalie candidate and a steal in Kulich yet Reinhart has literally exploded this year in goals and helped take Florida to a Cup Finals. You can run further down the list with Montour, Scandella, And even Ristolainen to some degree. Arguably the only trade that worked out for us pretty well was ROR’s original trade as Colorado didn’t get any major success stories out of the players. And there’s the mutually detrimental trade of Lehner for “Colin White” which just hurt both sides to varying degrees. So yes I’m gun shy for good reason; I don’t feel like watching us trade Cozens for an ok player while Cozens turns into a monster.

Honestly I'd just re-do the 4th Line, get a RHD and try again with a different coach. It isn't sexy or groundbreaking but certainly realistic and yet still potentially sound. Skinner is a great player while simultaneously being an anchor of a contract due to his one trick pony skillset. Thompson has had an off year but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as he's been injured all over the entire season. Tuch is one of those heart and soul guys with a Buffalo connection so he's not going anywhere. Quinn has been great this year, if only he could stay healthy for more than a 20 games. Peterka has showed up big time this year; his issue seems to be consistency which tends to be fixed when Quinn and Cozens play with him. Cozens has had an eventful season with terrible puck luck, a facial injury, and contractual pressures only increasing due to his unluckiness in shooting. He could be a center or wing in the future. Mitts, I'd look to give him 3 years and 6mil or so per. He's grown into quite the player but I've got mixed feelings about 3 Centers at 7x7mil Greenway is a solid player who can be a 3rd/4th liner. Benson has been a great youngster on the wing with the sky being the limit on his potential. Likely will be the eventual replacement for Skinner in regards to being the small feisty guy. There's 9 forwards and honestly all of them have plenty of talent as well traits to help us. We just need 3 more grizzled vets with skill sets that differ from our present bunch.

Easy no, you don’t trade good young players with experience + a 1st for a defensive prospect. That would literally defeat the purpose to trade Power. Savoie, Jokiharju and a 2nd would be my opening offer Can’t take Elvis due to his cap hit; in that case we’d effectively be trading Mitts regardless

Jiricek is rather pissed at CBJ. Feels as if he’s been punished for disagreeing with the staff on his play. Barely getting any minutes and no power play time and now they sent him back to the AHL. There was some fear he may refuse to report however he loves the staff in Cleveland. Can we spin Savoie for him lol

Hopefully the break allows us to forget the other 2 wins and we can try to get another 2 wins

Part of this is due to Tuch being hobbled most of the year as well as Quinn being out half the season. Part of it has to do with the terribly executed attempt at defensively responsible hockey. Which both literally and mentally slows them down. Lastly Hinostroza, Jost and Bryson are faster skaters than Greenway, Benson and Johnson. Underachieving is also baked into it as well however I can’t exactly quantify that

Not for the Sabres to be there, just the odd formation in the standings

Oddly enough, we are more or less the last place team of passable hockey teams at this time. We have a 7+ point lead on all 5 teams behind us and would jump to 24th with a win and losses by MTL, MIN and CGY. Just very unusual.

He's legitimately nice on Twitter and seems down to Earth when I've seen him a few times at Tops.

I give credit to Thompson for at least trying to get engaged with some hits and puck carrying after they went down 1-0. Dahlin played fine, easily our best player tonight. Kudos to the 4th line who played with energy all night. UPL stood on his head to keep the score reasonable. Tuch skated, then got banged up, then skated and got banged up again Skinner was his usual bad Skinner version, all finesse and little to no attack. Power needs some confidence and to work non-stop on his shot in the offseason like Dahlin did in his years 2 and 3 offseasons. He has zero trust in his shot and thus will quite literally pass the puck to a Skinner covered by three guys versus shoot it on net. Overall a god awful game with small positives surrounded by giant negatives. They better be flying against LA from start to finish tomorrow night.

I can definitely accept the that opinion; I don't hate his announcing but its a far cry from RJ

Don’t think he’s had a job since Buffalo but he is 73 now and would have been at least 65 when he was fired here. May have just retired. As for Tim Murray he hasn’t even been a scout or anything since Buffalo. He must of legitimately did something bad that we aren’t aware of because I’ve never seen a former GM who was a front office lifer vanish like that. Botterill has been the AGM in Seattle and has been in proposed candidates when GM searches are ongoing. Adams has always been an odd one due to his experience being all over the place. Player, Assistant Coach, Scout, high up roles in the Harbor Center and Jr Sabres programs and something akin to an auditor for the Pegulas in the 2019-2020 area. He has done well at bringing on great analytical minds to his youth scouting but the lack of pro scouts seems odd. From a manager POV he seems very good, easy to work with, listens to his staff, etc. Where the issues seem to arise is with his more mild approaches to goaltending and pushing the team into the playoffs.