7+6=13

If you think we're a goalie away from being a playoff team, you do believe we're better than the Eichel years.

I think we're a better overall team now and you do too. I think we had them and weren't a playoff team. We used their talent, in part to aquire different talent, but I wouldn't want to go back to that time.

I agree. That's not what I responded to.

My guess is, we'd be where we were when we had them.

Happy to hear this.

Not caring where you play is a learned thought process, as hockey prospects begin an early non traditional life. He'd train in Vancouver if he played for any other organization. I'd have to research but I'm guessing players don't train in the city they play at least partially until other things manifest. I.E. married with kids living in the city they play / longer term contract.

If Tage is already close to asking out, then Tuch isn't the linchpin. I'm not trying to say I don't understand what you're saying. However if we sign Tuch and still lose Tage as you suggest as being already half way there. To me that would mean that's an entirely different discussion than lumping Tuch into that. A lot would have to happen and be true for what you suggested. I used Benson as a parallel argument. If this, then ... can be speculated.

Dexter continues to be excellent. The series - "From" - hearing the next season is coming, so good time to watch the first ones.

What if Tuch signs for 8 years/88 mil and then Tage asks for a trade mid season, then Benson's agent leaks that he won't sign an extension under any circumstances?

'I don't want to hear, my bad"

Konsta and Quinn

Dang Dunne, beat down

Agreed and Sam is an excellent comparison in the way he got knocked down. I guess I just don't think of Quinn as soft and avoiding contact. Maybe even in the same respect, that I never thought Sam was soft. I could be wrong, maybe he is. Hope not. We have it on.

I never really thought about Quinn as one of the non physical players. Not that I'm disagreeing but I suppose I could have not paid enough attention to that, within the disappointment of his last season. I will disagree on moving out Power. It's not the time to do that yet. Bryson, I mean, it's not expected. He's just not that kind of player and he's a 14 min guy. Samuelsson, absolutely agree. He's the player I dislike the most on the team. I hope you're surprised that we're not as soft as you're expecting.

That's right and precisely why I made the comment. It's not so much about upgrading for me, it's that we need everything we have and one more not decent, excellent forward. Id consider trading for him but I don't think giving anything up at least in the top 6-8 work for me. Prospects in Rochester and picks, yes I would, but that's not going to get him.

I believe we're one excellent forward/center away from having a legitimate roster, that's not only playoff bound but we could contend. That's without losing one via trade to acquire it.

What if the goalie is above the average save % and they don't make the playoffs? Also is average goaltending better than below average?

Maybe he misspelled eye rolled?

Tuch has been one of the best value players not on their ELC, we've had. I wonder if he's looking to make up for some of that, beyond his current value.

I think he plays passive, defensively, because he's not naturally aggressive and 22. IMHO, he shows much more confidence skating with the puck and offensively. My guess is he'll be worth the wait. I think turning 23, growing more into that big frame, maybe even getting married, a player can learn to take less crap. I don't think we're talking about someone that's terrible, we're talking about someone we hope realizes his potential.

I like this but I have a different lineup I like too Benson - Thompson - Tuch Zucker - Norris - Quinn Greenway - McLeod - Doan Krebs - Kulich - Danforth (Malenstyn)

No Cozens was better than Cozens. Norris and no Cozens is much better than Cozens. Kesselring and Timmins are at minimum an improvement defensively and are definitely more physical than who departed. Doan is an addition with traits that help teams. Power is one year closer to the age, some of us that are optimistic, feeling like he needed time to reach his potential.

Well I largely agree, however all soup bases shouldn't be blamed.

Many of the Sabres players really like soup.

I'm hearing it may or may not rain. It probably will.