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As for the original post -- I think this construes in the worst possible light a series of decisions that were each reasonable at the time they were made. Keeping Darcy and Lindy and giving them more $$ to work with than OSP had provided -- totally reasonable in light of their prior success. Firing Darcy and Rolston when the team was DFL and getting booed off the ice at home -- who here didn't agree with that? Bringin PLF on as the overseer, with job #1 being to help find the new GM, and with Nolans to keep the coach's seat warm during an interim period -- reasonable. PLF wasn't just sitting on his couch when TP offered him the job. He was working for the NHL and knew a lot of people. The GM search seemed professionally conducted. Firing PLF -- if, as has been murmured, PLF really couldn't handle a work environment due to CTE -- reasonable. Firing Black -- does this even matter? Presumably he lost a power struggle with RB, which is hardly unusual. Firing DDB -- this seems like a no-brainer. Firing FGMTM -- this one is trickier. Certainly it's reasonable to think that he wasn't given quite enough rope. But he had 3 offseasons and 4 trade deadlines, and the team was undeniably terrible at both the NHL and AHL levels. The game they played was boring. The opponent inevitably controlled play. The locker room was fractured. The franchise player was clearly unhappy. And an entire season went by with GMTM doing zero to improve the situation. It wasn't crazy, or even knee-jerk, to want to move on.

While I said above that I can see it happening, I don't think Lindy will return as President/czar. I'd bet he wants to coach again.

This might be your worst post in the last 24 hours -- and that is a high bar indeed.

Are you joking? Did you read the article you linked? And are you aware that virtually no credible NFL observers think Whaley is any good? http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/71467/57/nfls-best-gms-2017?pg=3 (That, btw, is an example of linking to an article that actually says what the poster claims it says.)

Can someone explain the 12.5 line?

Holy mackerel. I can totally see this happening.

So you think that article "verifies" your statement? Vic Carucci rattling off a long list of DW mistakes, and then saying that he (Vic, not anyone else) thinks two good DW moves are the kind of moves that earn awards for GMs? Does DW perchance buy your unused Sabres tickets? I'm half-expecting this too.

Considered by whom? The PTR Delusion Club? He was also just ranked as the worst GM in the NFL by Rotoworld. As for your question -- that's quite an assumption. Should we also assume he sprouts wings and flies the Bills to their away games? It has occurred to me that TP saw Eichel's interview and put it into the growing pile of evidence that the wheels had fallen off.

This.

Like any GM, he gets credit for his good moves and criticism for his poor ones -- but most of all, he, like every GM, is accountable for W-L results, because his job is to produce a winning team. He's failed.

It's pretty well settled that drafting EJ was DW's call. Nice one, there. DW also had the rest of the 2013 offseason -- i.e. free agency deciding on the roster, etc.

You have got to be kidding me.

It means that someone can post stories they've heard about RB and describe them as stories they've heard. That's all that's happened -- plus someone else weirdly getting on a high horse and being fairly obnoxious about it. No. Whaley has been the GM for 4 (awful) seasons. His records were 6-10, 9-7, 8-8 and 7-9. Are you saying that the team president and the GM are not accountable for the team's performance? Really? While RB may have participated in negotiating the lease, there is NFW that the decision to make it economically very difficult to move the team came from anyone other than Ralph.

Who said anything about press conferences? Whaley is terrible for many reasons -- and the evidence is the team's record on his watch. If the Bills didn't need any help making themselves laughingstocks -- isn't RB, as team president, accountable for that? As for the poison pill -- it's pretty clear to me that it was Ralph's doing, not RB's.

1 - Well, you've admitted that he hired Whaley and that he participated in hiring Rex. Do I need more proof? 2 -- No. As team president, his role was to make money AND produce a good team that isn't an NFL laughingstock. He made a short-term decision to increase revenue by implementing the Toronto series, which materially contributed to the Bills' chronic losing and their "achieving" NFL laughingstock status. 3 -- So "someone has to be the GM" excuses hiring a terrible GM?

Dude. He's not a sales person. He's the team president. And are you going to continue to pretend that Rex, Whaley and the Toronto series weren't his babies, or that they didn't hurt the team?

Again: if his job is SVP-marketing, then you're right. But his job is team president (and was GM for a while too). That means he's accountable for them becoming the biggest joooooooooooooke in the NFL.

As for canning the heads of scouting: I'd guess that the new GM will want to put his own guys in those spots, and this was just clearing the decks for him to do so. It does lend credence to the notion that TP already has something cooking.

Me too.

No need to be a DB about it, either.

I hate to say this, but offseason plans are going to need to factor in the likelihood (which I've seen in the Snooze and which has been persuasively described to me by a doctor who admittedly only knows what has been made public) that Okposo is not coming back. So everyone agitating for a Kane or Reino trade should think twice about subtracting another high-end forward.

OK with me. Get someone from a highly-accomplished organization. I'd still like an experienced guy as president, though, and for Brandon to be ridden out on a rail.

Well, if you need things to be concrete, you can't really take Friedman's "I wonder if the team felt Murray leaked it" as "Murray leaked it." Go on...

Whaley Rex Bills games in Toronto

No thanks. They've never gotten anywhere in the playoffs, and he chose to build his forward corps around 3 expensive wingers (Parise, Vanek and Pommer). Very nice.