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An embarrassing loss right after an embarrassing outcome to a trade. The devil on TP’s shoulder whispering “fire him!” just got 4% more convincing.

What? Do you think JB has done a good job overall as GM of the Sabres? Would you rather have what MTL got for Scandy or what the Sabres got for him? Please provide examples of premium prices that have been traded for cap space at the deadline. Also, I didn't change the thread title.

This is obnoxiously stated. As to the substance: first, there is a material difference between living with a $2MM cap hit for the entire season and living with it for 28% of the season. When you have it for the entire season, it affects your plans and the options available to you for the entire season. When you only have to live with it for 28% of the season, you've already experienced the first 72%, and you know what you need for the remaining 28%. In other words: this was much easier for MTL to live with than it would've been at the beginning of the season. Second, I'm not sure what you're saying in your last paragraph, but if it's that you think Scandy for Frolik was a better move than Scandy for a #2, I think you are dead wrong. If the Sabres are up against the cap to the point where they can't retain a $2MM cap hit for 30% of the season in order to get a 2nd instead of a 4th -- that's also a JB failure. A team this bad shouldn't also have zero cap flexibility. I also think there are various moves that are and were then available to free up cap space in a pinch for just such an occasion -- and that's before the Bogo contract termination windfall. At the end of the day, I think this is another one of those "understandable at the time and the consequences aren't so bad" JB moves that nevertheless add up over time and hinder the achievement of optimal roster construction results.

Apples and oranges IMHO. And while Scandy's salary is $4MM, Montreal isn't retaining a $2MM cap hit -- they are only retaining the prorated portion through the end of the year. STL has 23 games remaining, which is 28% of the schedule. 28% of Scandy's $4MM salary is $1.12MM. Montreal retained half of that, which is $556K. Any respectable GM would have retained that much to get a #2 instead of a #4 for Scandy. JB just mis-timed the market and mis-evaluated how much Scandy would yield in trade. He screwed it up.

In all seriousness -- we know TP hates being embarrassed. This is embarrassing.

What is this based on?

Scandy trade posts moved to the new thread.

Well, no way to spin it -- this looks like asset mismanagement by JB.

Not at all surprised by this, but it's really not relevant at this point. It wasn't realistic to think this would happen during the season. TP could easily change his mind on this after the season -- just like he could easily decide to can JB entirely.

For the record: there is NFW that Florida is giving up Trocheck for McCabe plus a prospect. It will take Risto or Montour.

For those who have watched some of Dylan's WHL games this year -- does it look like there is anything for him to gain in playing another year at that level?

How long could a human live on Twinkies and water? I’ll guess 45 days.

I agree that assuming 2 of them are going to handle real roles in the NHL next year is ill-advised. It’ll be kinda disappointing if they don’t get one contributor out of the three of them though.

If he clears waivers now and stays in Rochester, maybe they can call him up without waivers if they need a warm body on short notice right after the deadline? And maybe giving him an NHL contract is to deter other teams from claiming him via waivers, so he gets a nice raise for the last third of the season and the Sabres protect their plan?

Hutton’s recent play is a low-key shocking development. And a win in the 2nd half of February to keep the season alive, when last year’s team had begun its irreversible nose dive at this point, with all those sweet 3rd-period goals (including the very nifty feed from Risto to Vesey!)? yessir — best W of the year.

Brutal. Separately: excellent hockey talk in here boys. IMHO, @dudacek is certainly right that we haven't seen any kind of shark-like strike from JB with his accumulated defense assets, that good forwards have changed hands while JB has been accumulating defensemen, that the Sabres are still dying for help in the top 6 and that JB is accountable for the outcome if his plan doesn't come to fruition. OTOH, @LTS is right that Scandy and Bogo had pretty much zero value starting this season, while Risto's value was quite depressed. Also, I think there was a reputable report that at least one of the good forwards did not want to come to Buffalo. Moreover, the book is not yet written here. I think Montour, Miller and Joker all look like they can be mainstays for a long time, and I'm more than happy to ride with them, Risto and Dahlin indefinitely. That group plus the good D prospects are still available as currency to trade for a good forward -- and in the meantime they are improving in value.

@SwampD -- any thoughts? Eichel was better tonight, that's for sure. He was a monster. And let it be noted that Reino was better than Marner. They are 5 under DeLuca .500 with 23 games left. If they go 7-3 and then 7-3, they will be alive with 3 games left.

I didn’t realize that he’s only 29. He needs to get TF over it, report to Rochester, work his butt off, not complain and get himself another contract. He’s still good enough of get paid to play in the NHL for another few years.

I’ve never gotten a flu shot.

But isn't this article a form of participation in peer review? Kind of like a crowd-sourced analysis of what is currently known? I know nothing about the author (or that website, for that matter) -- only that the linked article seemed to be written in a pretty dispassionate and objective manner. If you knew, say, that the author was a contagious disease specialist at a prestigious hospital, would you be inclined to consider his views in formulating your opinion about the gravity of the coronavirus situation? Or are the author and the article disqualified due to it being posted on that site?

The linked article was about coronavirus and nothing else. Do you think it was political?

Now this I agree with.

You’d think the prudent move if he wants another contract is to be a good soldier and play hard in the AHL, but he already reacted emotionally and imprudently with the trade demand. He might blow this one up too.

Do you think the number of cases and/or the number of deaths has been intentionally distorted? By a bunch of different sources?

Well, if you read my post, you’d see that I said I didn’t read the WHO document, and that I said the NEJM article says what the author says it says. But thank you for asking. As for the “disparity in hype” — do you think there is some kind of conspiracy afoot? My understanding is that corona is substantially more lethal than common flu, and that we are nowhere near understanding the overall risk.