Samson's Flow

Exactly. (Yes 31st overall not 33rd - I knew he was the first pick in the 2nd round but was thinking this was the NFL for some reason lol)

Also how is Lemiuex a marginal prospect when he was drafted 33rd overall a year earlier? Talk about revisionist history now that we know he didn't pan out...

Myers having almost twice as many points than Bogo says otherwise. Also Myers was significantly younger at the time.

Come on John, it's "queue".

Agreed. Even a 3rd line piece like the ones noted above would be very helpful to our current team depth.

Well we never said they were going to have a successful tear down. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

I can speak only for myself when I say I liked the "big" trades that GMTM made, the Kane, ROR ones got key "star" players for secondary pieces. It was all his other trades where he threw our surplus of picks and prospects away for one prospect that was "his guy", when none of those guys (Lehner, Fashing, Carrier, etc.) were even close to a difference making player. His overspending for average players crippled our depth and forced the Sabres to rely on Eichel/ROR/Kane to try to carry the team.

It's amazing how they were able to be good so quickly, but they seem to have gotten a taste of being a competitor and now want to chase that in perpetuity. Icarus flying into the sun...

You know it is possible for other people to be right every once in a while? JFC...

Right, in 2-3 years Montour would be 27 years old and a few years into his new contract (RFA in 2020), and Anaheim will just be bringing in their "new" core of young players at that time. By the time they are expecting to compete again, Montour is nearing 30 years old and his play is declining or he's off the team after playing meaningless seasons in ANA.

I think you answered your initial question in the bulk of your post. Montour's play style didn't align with how a Randy Carlisle team plays, where as he fits ideally with a Housley uptempo attacking defense. Anahiem recognized that isn't the type of player they want to invest in, and acted accordingly.

I think Sabres fans complained because of the cavalier nature in which XGMTM spent the currency of picks & prospects that the team had worked so hard to build up. multiple picks for Hudson Fashing, 1st rounder for Lehner, multiple assets for Will Carrier - these were all drunk uncle in Vegas spending habits. I think it is different in the JBott has communicated how much he values the picks and assets we have, and seems more measured in his use of them.

the first bold - The Anaheim team as a whole is headed into a re-building phase, and while Montour is young, he only has 1 year before an RFA payday that a re-building team isn't going to want to pay for. If you are expecting to compete in the next few years (like the Sabres expect to) then that fits perfectly in the competitive window. Anaheim is trading him to align their team to the expected competitive window, which is why a 21 yr old defenseman and a RD1 pick is more valuable to them.

Fair, but the post I was quoting was talking about winning the Stanley Cup, which to me is absurd since TB is looming there.

They need to go through TB if they even get the #8 seed. Good luck.

I see what you did there...

I don't see a trade of Risto to Tampa Bay that I would be happy with honestly. There is no way that TB is subtracting from their roster in advance of the playoff run, and the prospects quality doesn't interest me enough to trade Risto. No interest in futures that are 3-4 years from making an impact.

The Le3afs have lost 3 of their last 4, and we just played TB tough. I wouldn't say it is inevitable that we get caved tonight.

If this was the WWE he would come out as a surprise with entrance music and the announcers going batty. Sadly, I think nothing of the sort will occur tonight. ? I would expect guys like Beaulieu would be extra skaters in anticipation of being in trade discussions. But yes, if any other "odd" lineup moves happen they may be indications of other trade talks. I love trade deadline day...

I would argue strongly that this year Bogo has been either our best or second best defender. The "Bogo is bad" narrative is leftover from past years.

Surely that's not a serious question right?

Nicely done sir ?

Didn't see anybody having "trade for Montour" in here. JBott is very tight lipped before trades go down This was is the ballpark while not mentioning Montour or Guhle specifically

Thanks guys. That RFA status allows us to maintain control for a while, but also let's the team see what they're getting with a full season as a sabre.

This is exactly the kind of long term hockey trade that I suspected JBott was thinking about when he talked about the deadline. We weren't trading for rentals, nor were we going to sell. Montour was a name we talked about a lot back in the expansion draft when Anaheim had all those defense men. What's the term on Montour contact?