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Cap. The future price may have been high, but the current price is low. That is not unexpected for a team who thinks they have it all this year.

Certainly a better fit for what that team needs. They have all the scoring they need.

No. His salary and his NMC was in flat cap year.

They literally had none. Only Hall’s desire to upset his current life for a couple months was in play.

NMC. The N and the M stand for no movement. In your scenario, Adams and the team come out like ***** ***** in this scenario.

That’ll show him! LOL

Should have? What is the decision tree when Taylor Hall decides he doesn’t want to give a list of teams?

I know an angry fan base loves a good ass kicking opportunity, but sometimes it is just Occam‘s razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

It didn’t take a hockey savant to see this as a possibility. 😉

That’s fine. But I also know that these opinions are extremely vague and unsupported by facts surrounding the situation. We have tons of community members like that. I didn’t think you were one of them.

You can take this one step further and if the Sabres get nothing for Hall other than “I won’t be bullied“, then this would be viewed as horrible asset mismanagement. Although I am guessing on the reaction, I think there’s a lot of data to support it, I am deeply skeptical of any analysis that always finds fault with one side, regardless of their actions. Making a claim that we should’ve accepted zero for Taylor Hall to make a principle stance is the best way forward to help this hockey team is highly questionable.

To be clear, I brought up the auction aspect in case there were a lot of potential bidders. I also brought up the fact that the NMC could also have a drastic affect by eliminating all other teams except one. I haven’t read the full topic, but virtually no one brought up the NMC aspect of this.

You can see this until you’re blue in the face and it does not mean you’re even one step closer to being correct. If it’s true that Taylor Hall would only go to Boston, then go ahead and tell me how Adams should have gotten more from this trade? When there’s only one team the bargain with it’s just a big old game of chicken.

To me this just reads that you’re mad as AF about the trade and you are searching for a reason that sticks. One of them might be true, but you’re definitely searching. If the NMC was the original sin, then you can’t be disappointed in the trade. Such an outcome would have been expected and that would’ve been the crux of your argument when this went down. FWIW, I think this is probably the correct answer. As a fan I could be disappointed in the trade, but also understand it completely falls within expectations. To be convinced otherwise I would need to see the Venn diagram that shows me the number of teams in play that Hall wanted to be traded to, the other team had enough cap room, that team also needed a left winger that has Hall’s skill set (Hall ≠ Foligno) and lastly, are willing to trade the assets we are looking for. That intersection in the diagram is probably exceedingly small in my estimation.

So maybe Hall pushing for Boston sheds some more light on the return? The word heavily is subjective, but I think it could be as far as Boston being the only team he was really willing to go to.

If you could analyze Taylor Hall’s NMC, his cap hit and the specific market for a left-winger on the effects of the trade it would be greatly appreciated. (Just so you don’t have to look it up, Toronto is paying Nick Foligno $1.375 million for the rest of the season).

Has anyone heard anything from Taylor Hall? Was he willing to go anywhere or just a couple select teams? Despite any implications otherwise, Taylor Hall had the final authority on this trade. It is impossible to be definitive on this trade without knowing that critical piece of information. He literally could’ve said I will not go anywhere other than Boston (he probably didn’t, it’s just an example).

You seem to have answers for a lot of things. I’m wondering if you would be willing to answer me?

Do you have an answer to anything I posted in this topic? can you explain why, after Hall services have been available for the last month, that this was the offer that was taken? Do you have an answer for why no one else bid a larger amount? Do you know how much the NMC affected this?

Dude. Seriously? Play Hall for the rest of the year is a better option? To what end?

C’mon. That stretches credulity. Adams, who has been around hockey all his life, doesn’t know a good trade, but everyone here does? And Twitter does? I don’t buy that at all. Not even a little.

Sure it’s possible. But it’s damned if you do damned if you don’t. What are the chances it was so much better that everyone here would’ve been happy, and Adams said no because he wanted more? Again. Every single team knew for a month that Taylor Hall was available. This snuck up on no one. Other than Toronto, what team made a big trade that precluded this from happening?

Here’s what baffles me about fan analysis on this (disregarding general disappointment on the perceived value of the trade)... Do people think there were better offers on the table and that Adams just took the lowest one? When teams decided not to beat Boston‘s offer was this Adam’s fault? Were all of the willing trade partners that stupid that they would let Boston get Hall for such a bargain basement price, yet they weren’t willing to up their offer? this wasn’t a secret deal, inexplicably made in the middle of the night in early December. Every single team in the league knew that Hall was available. Every single team knew they could acquire Taylor Hall. Every single team could have put in a better offer. Again, unless Adams deliberately decided to pick a lower offer, it’s only reasonable to expect that this was actually the best offer.

I must be completely missing the point about the retained salary. He’s on a one-year contract. Who cares? It doesn’t affect the team one iota moving forward and it’s Terry’s money. Who was going to deal us back a worthwhile, high dollar player (since the team trading for a Hall would be still in the hunt) in order for the receiving team to fit Hall under the cap?

Report the topic, don’t just make a post.