UPL 🗑️ Thread

[Night Train]

I don't trust him. Up and down. Soft goals.  

[Brawndo]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

What’s a housing letter? 

It’s a letter from the team telling a player to find a place in Buffalo as he is not being waived to the AHL. 

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Is it "a housing" or "an housing"

I think it this case it should be "a housing" but the original post said "an housing" so i'm not 100% sure.

I did some checking and “a” should be used because of the hard pronunciation “h” in the word housing.

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 hours ago, Palm Trees And Taxes said:

Can the Sabres just designate UPL for assignment, waive him,cut their losses? 

I say this because we are at the point soon we need to know what Devon Levi is or isn't. He is 23. It is time soon.

I want that roadblock of UPL gone now. 

Yes, but they are on the hook for his entire contract amount even if he is playing in the minors.  That's 4.75 a year for this year and the next 3 years.  Another master stroke by KA.  They would receive a cap credit of about $1 mill per season.  

The best way to get rid of UPL is to find a team willing to take him and eat 50% of his deal. (I'm assuming he has zero trade value otherwise)

The next best option is a buyout.  The cap hit would be 1.583 per season for the next 6 years.  

Year        Team                          League  GP Min  GA  SO   GAA W  L OTL   Saves   Save %  (BOLD = STARTER)

2020-21  Rochester Americans  AHL     14  817  491   0   3.60   7  5    2      389     0.888

2020-21  Buffalo Sabres              NHL      4  217    14   0   3.88   1   3   0      135      0.906

2021-22  Rochester Americans   AHL    35  2032 111   1   3.28  15 14  6      997      0.900

2021-22  Buffalo Sabres               NHL      9   503 23     0  2.74   2   5  2     254     0.917

2022-23  Buffalo Sabres               NHL      33   1910 114   0   3.58 17  11  4      940    0.892

2022-23  Rochester Americans   AHL       9   527   27   0   3.07   6   3 0     238    0.898

2023-24  Buffalo Sabres                NHL    54   3081 132  5    2.57  27  22 4   1338    0.910  (CONTRACT YEAR)

2024-25  Buffalo Sabres                NHL     55   3172 169  2    3.20 24  24  5   1321    0.887

2025-26  Rochester Americans     AHL      1      60   2    0   2.01     1    0   0    21     0.913

2025-26  Buffalo Sabres               NHL       3    186   9    0   2.91     1    1     1    64    0.877

This isn't the pedigree of a starting NHL goalie.  

Now compare this to Ellis' pedigree.  https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?encode=TRUE&pid=197251  I'd rather have Ellis.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[RETURNTOGLORY]

He's an AHL Goalie AT BEST! 

With the lack of scoring on this team, superior goaltending is a must!

[JoeSchmoe]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

The best way to get rid of UPL is to find a team willing to take him and eat 50% of his deal. (I'm assuming he has zero trade value otherwise)

The next best option is a buyout.  The cap hit would be 1.583 per season for the next 6 years.  

I really can't see a team taking him for $2.4million a season.

I'm not sure if anyone else here remembers the interview UPL did with some Finnish reporters. I seem to recall him saying he didn't like being called UPL. Am I remembering that right? Anyhow, that's how I remember it, and it didn't come across very well to me. So when I couple that with his poor play- the jerk in me would like to see him unceremoniously bought out... For certain no one will call him UPL anymore once he's out of the league and playing back in Finland.

Edited 3 hours ago by JoeSchmoe

[clink]

15 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

I really can't see a team taking him for $2.4million a season.

I'm not sure if anyone else here remembers the interview UPL did with some Finnish reporters. I seem to recall him saying he didn't like being called UPL. Am I remembering that right? Anyhow, that's how I remember it, and it didn't come across very well to me. So when I couple that with his poor play- the jerk in me would like to see him unceremoniously bought out... For certain one will call him UPL anymore once he's out of the league and playing back in Finland.

Between the above UPL quote, AND the quote about needing his teammates to know that it's "his" net (or, whatever TF he was attempting to imply) I don't think I can loathe the bum, anymore than I currently do? 

I cannot STAND the guy!!!

[JohninMinn.]

I'm reading Sabres looking to move goalie. Anybody know where I can get a quantity deal on cases of Vasoline.?

[SabreFinn]

12 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

At this point, if you can find anyone to take his full contract off your hands, I'd do it.

2round pick, 5th round pick, 'future considerations', whatever. Take the best offer. 

To me its important to just 'move on' and free up that money if its possible.

If Lyon and Levi/Ellis aren't the answer, then you are in no worse situation on the ice than you are with UPL, but you have nearly $5m more in cap space.

With Doan, and Kesserling, and Benson, and Tuch, and 3 bottom of the roster spots needing to be signed next year, AND currently only about $20m to spend on all of that, every dollar counts and you are wasting a lot of those dollars on UPL.

If he can be moved, The return in assets doesn't matter. The return in cap space is more valuable than what he gives you as a player now.

A buy out is 1,58 milj AAV for  6 years.